Is this bitch crazy? Or is this retail?

What you need to also think about is the actual "job" here...this is real social media management. This isn't buying some fake twitter followers, fake facebook likes, fake google +1's, etc. These are campaigns that are designed to do one thing: drive revenue. Much more work than most might imagine.

Her rates are competitive for good work, and I know people who charge more than she does. Their English and grammar are impeccable, they are very smart, and they are VERY enthusiastic, social, and interactive. And they get a business to where it wants to be. I watch everything, because in business one has to always be observing and paying attention to detail. I watch the people who do this for a living. You can't get what she does from fiverr. The entire concept of what this woman and others like her do goes over some people's heads.

Funny story. A couple of years ago I was participating in a group jewelry chat on twitter. A friend of mine in NYC whom I buy diamonds from hosted the chat, and he hired a woman like the one described in this thread to coordinate and run the chat. She was hired for a chat on an ongoing, once a week basis. The first chat was slow and not many people showed up. The man was pretty pissed because he paid her a lot of money. I have a habit of taking over because I can be a tad controlling and want things done my way, and I told the man that the next week, I would help him get more people and liven things up. I rocked that chat the next week. Over 100 people who I invited were in it, the hashtag trended, and everyone was conversing so fast that I could not keep up. The woman who got paid to do this dm'd me and told me to stop taking over her chat. She said it was making her look bad. Three jewelry stores asked me how much I would charge to run a twitter chat for them. The next day, the woman dm'd me and the man who hired her and said the chats were off and she wasn't doing them any more. He didn't care because she wasn't good anyway.

What I did for the man, and what the woman described in this thread does, you can't get from fiverr. Nor can you just say "I want to do this to make the money this woman does." This isn't fake crap (and I love the fake crap because I like my follower count to look high), or something you can "scale up." This is the real deal, for real businesses who want real results from real people. It takes a certain type of person to do what this woman does, and you either have that it factor or you don't.

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Her rates are competitive for good work, and I know people who charge more than she does. Their English and grammar are impeccable, they are very smart, and they are VERY enthusiastic, social, and interactive. And they get a business to where it wants to be. I watch everything, because in business one has to always be observing and paying attention to detail. I watch the people who do this for a living. You can't get what she does from fiverr. The entire concept of what this woman and others like her do goes over some people's heads. Funny story. A couple of years ago I was participating in a group jewelry chat on twitter. A friend of mine in NYC whom I buy diamonds from hosted the chat, and he hired a woman like the one described in this thread to coordinate and run the chat. She was hired for a chat on an ongoing, once a week basis. The first chat was slow and not many people showed up. The man was pretty pissed because he paid her a lot of money. I have a habit of taking over because I can be a tad controlling and want things done my way, and I told the man that the next week, I would help him get more people and liven things up. I rocked that chat the next week. Over 100 people who I invited were in it, the hashtag trended, and everyone was conversing so fast that I could not keep up. The woman who got paid to do this dm'd me and told me to stop taking over her chat. She said it was making her look bad. Three jewelry stores asked me how much I would charge to run a twitter chat for them. The next day, the woman dm'd me and the man who hired her and said the chats were off and she wasn't doing them any more. He didn't care because she wasn't good anyway. What I did for the man, and what the woman described in this thread does, you can't get from fiverr. Nor can you just say "I want to do this to make the money this woman does." This isn't fake crap (and I love the fake crap because I like my follower count to look high), or something you can "scale up." This is the real deal, for real businesses who want real results from real people. It takes a certain type of person to do what this woman does, and you either have that it factor or you don't.

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What's the benefit of a jewelry store owner having chat rooms?

Boul Dous said:

What's the benefit of a jewelry store owner having chat rooms?

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It's not a chat room. It is a twitter chat. A twitter chat is a chat with a topic and a hashtag. Everyone joins in the conversation. Not only does it give the business visibility, but it also gives the business many targeted followers who turn into customers. Major businesses do twitter chats all the time. Sometimes the business will also give something away during the chat too. The person who coordinates the chat is paid very good money if they are good in their field.

Do you have any reallly good recommendations for more research on becoming this kind of professional. Would you say I should try running some accounts starting at a price of something like $100.00 a month to work managing the small business Facebook pages? Then I can just scale up my pricing as I get better. What do you think?

OMG those prices are really high.

Donestrgling said:

Do you have any reallly good recommendations for more research on becoming this kind of professional. Would you say I should try running some accounts starting at a price of something like $100.00 a month to work managing the small business Facebook pages? Then I can just scale up my pricing as I get better. What do you think?

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Managing the social media pages of a business is not something one should do if they have to get better at it as they go along, or learn about while they are charging money. No one should go into any business with that mindset. It is a recipe for disaster in many ways. Study and learn, and know the field inside and out before you start charging money in it. You can also ask yourself "What do I enjoy doing? What am I good at? What do I know a lot about?" Take those answers and find something in that field.

Not worth it .......... Its for some millionaires or money wasters that can't do basic things on their own.

or people who dont have the time

I believe she will still get some clients hook up to her expensive services. Not all know about BHW, let alone wth is social media marketing. But they will likely to switch company once they discover what a fool they have been.

"Facebook Business Page Creation $800 (One-Time Fee)" my nephew can be a millionaire then

a lot of people ordering from me start with:"wow, that's expenise" but when I show them portfolio they come back with an order.

This woman wrote 2 books for Dummies, everybody knows about those books, and that's called AUTHORITY. With such an authority she would be stupid to ask $29/hour.

She is not working on Fiverr

SkyrocketSEO said:

This woman wrote 2 books for Dummies,

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So does this mean those who order from her are dummies too hahahaha

The webagency where i work has around the same pricing.
Prof services are different from service for personal sites.

So does this mean those who order from her are dummies too hahahaha

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No, this means that she is somewhere you probably won't go, with that mindset

This whole industry is kind of screwed up. Think about all the posts on here that are like "I just got my first SEO customer, what do I do next?" Relative to all the other services going around, her's might be worth the money (although not likely).

Cheers!

Can anyone here show me her proven portfolio?

I checked out her site and she is using her previous success as an entertainer and teacher for children to charm potential clients for her sns initiatives. My question is, where are the results as her being a successful online marketer.

TMO, the services she provide are too expensive. The pdf already provides some solid clues for those who want to do what she does and it is not hard to research for details as you go along.

Can anyone here show me her proven portfolio?

I checked out her site and she is using her previous success as an entertainer and teacher for children to charm potential clients

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I think you shouldn't focus on her cause she is not a good example. On her home page she looks like a $0.5 cheeseburger, which will push away a lot of serious clients, BUT she wrote those 2 fucking books.
The thing is- There are a lot of people charging $200+/hour and the fact that the most of people work for $5/hour is not their fault.

They have their clients, and those clients are ready to pay

What most of you guys are saying is just ridiculous and just shows that you have no insight into the social media business or how big companies operate in general.

This is like people saying "$2k for a wordpress site with a glorified theme, I can do that for 50 bucks". Sure you can, I can too but I won't because I'm not an idiot. If you are working with the end user, as you usually will be if you are doing work with small businesses, making the site itself is just the tip of the iceberg. There's email, updates, hosting, backups and a shitload of other stuff. If you tell most people that this is gonna cost them $200 per month a lot of them are gonna look at you like you're crazy. It all comes down to what you're willing to put up with, if you don't value your time that's your thing. But if email goes down and you are driven crazy with 50 calls per day by this client don't say "What did they expect for $500".

In regards to the social media thing. I know large companies that have people working there as social media experts with a $60k salary and they don't really do much more than publishing a tweet or facebook post every once in a while. These people often are meant to be transfered to do something else but as things go in big companies that stuff can be slow and take forever.

The other and much more important point is that real social media campaigns aren't about fake followers and likes, as some have already mentioned. These have to actually show results or you get booted very quickly. During the Super Bowl companies like Oreo and Audi had entire teams featuring social media experts, designers, developers and who knows what else, on stand by just waiting for something unusual to happen that could be branded. Sure enough when the blackout hit Oreos had a spectacular comeback within hours, same with Audi.

Companies are paying for results, they don't necessarily care how much it is gonna cost as long as it provides the desired results. No company that remotely cares about it's image is gonna buy fiver services or any other fake followers/fans/likes for that matter. It takes 10 seconds to see that they're totally bogus and the resulting backslash can be enormous depending on the size of the company, a disaster just waiting for happen.

Excellent post xxtoni. You put it into words much better than I did.

This is a great thread, really all about valuing your time. And charging what you want. Of course there are many other points here. But all in all it seems these prices are realistic. Which is cool, because I just made a proposal for a workout video promotion charging $899.00 to set up the adwords account. I think its expensive, but the 6 months I took learning adwords is put into the time factor in my bids. Anyhow if they think its too much I have a buttload of room to work down.