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Is there any tools to check over optimized - Onpage?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by megavideolinks, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. megavideolinks

    megavideolinks Registered Member

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    keyword rankings of my site do not rise within 1 month although I keeping build 2 PBN links per week. Is it normal?

    ranking is #68 on sep 9 and 30 on sep 13, but since thats not rise any more. I thinks difficult of the competition from 29 and higher is not to much, it's on low-med competion niche.

    The keyword has 3000 searcher/m and the site is 3 months old. I used PBNs for 2 $sites and the other rise well (Sometime dance and comback later with some power up) so I don't thinks problem is my quality of my links.

    Now I thinks somethings wrong on my onpage, is there anytool to check if the site was over optimized for the keyword?

    looking for help and Sorry because my bad english.


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    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Yea second this tool as well, its very useful.
    As well as checking for on-page stuff I also use it to grab a list of related/generic keywords for a page, which works quite well when you set it to 2 word minimum and regularity of 1-2 occurrences.

     
  4. wowhaxor

    wowhaxor Elite Member

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    Optimizing for on page is always great so you're right to look into it with low competition and the back links you already have onsite is probably your issue.

    I know this wasn't your question but 30 vs low competition sites with ur current decent links sounds like it's more than onsite optimization and more issues entirely with the site. Google gives a lot of credit to quality sites these last few years so adding good, relevant and unique content is probably what you need more of.
     
  5. megavideolinks

    megavideolinks Registered Member

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    Im not a fan of content, my teacher said i can rank a site with just links even withough content and i saw he ranked sites with only title, url and descripton ánd make sure dont over optimized for target keywords. Im doing SEO for many sites but none of them not rise in a month after linked to pbns like the site so I thinks problem is onpage but i dont know where.
     
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  6. wowhaxor

    wowhaxor Elite Member

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    Is that a joke or are you being serious? Because I guarantee you that the only way you're ranking so low with a good link campaign vs low competition is that Google is viewing your site as low quality so some quality content will help you a lot it's what you're missing.
     
  7. megavideolinks

    megavideolinks Registered Member

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    Ya! I have 700 words content on the site, what are diffrent between low and high quality content? I dont thinks google knows what is the better. Good content is for user not for google.
     
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    Funny :) low quality would be non unique you should try to write your own content so it's unique.

    Then also keep it on topic with what you're ranking for it will help a bit, and back to on page SEO use they keywords in the urls for your content too. But having good unique content and keeping it fressh - add new content regularly - will help a lot because with the links that you have against low competition there's no reason you should be all the way back to page 3 of results after this long so if definitely focus on good, related, unique and regularly updated content.
     
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    Bullshit, the quality of the content doesn't matter, Google can't read content, so stop it with the content is king mantra, the problem is his PBN links for sure.

    It looks like your sandboxed, i would check my backlink anchors and the domains where these links come from, also sometimes it just takes a while and then it takes a huge jump, waiting a month is not that long at all even for longtails, also who is the competition the # of searches doesn't say anything about the competition at all, if you have a lot of authority sites in front of you it can take even much longer.

    Don't overthink your on-page, if you did your basic stuff, like keywords in H1 H2 H3, in the title, in your image tags and sprinkled in the content you should be fine, if you think your anchor is to high ad some LSI words instead, but like i sad don't overthink it content is not a big of a factor in ranking than people are religiously (without testing) believing right now thanks to Google propaganda, high quality content should only be used to convert visitors, SE spider don't have creditcards.
     
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    Well he's not sandboxed or he wouldnt be on page 3, he would be sandboxed. It is possible he has a penalty and its either that or an issue with his site, possibly unrelated or duplicate content. Which is why I still recommend adding unique content that is related to what he's trying to rank and optimizing his onsite further by using a good link structure with keywords for the new content/pages he would add as well.

    Of course content isn't everything but page 3 ranking with the backlinks he's built already means he's either got issues with his sites content or he's been penalized like you suggested, it's definitely not an issue of needing more backlinks.

    To say that content doesn't matter at all is equally as bad as saying links don't matter at all. And if you think Google can't check keyword density and relation of overall content to what you're ranking for or can't detect duplicate content then you must be in some really low competition niches because proper onsite SEO and content are needed.

    And I do still definitely recommend dedicated some if not most of that link building effort for now to improving his content and onsite SEO. If that doesn't work id say he's probably been penalized likely due to a SEO provider he used as it does sound by his description that he's been outsourcing some link building.
     
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  11. megavideolinks

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    Yes It's not sandboxed, I have many Longtails and secondary keywords ranked at page 2 already. the content is unique and written by me but again I'm not fan of content. I'll replace the content when it ranked on the top 3 to monetizer with the site.

    I'm not outsource my links, I do it my own, the pbns are not the best on the market but it has some decent juice and not spam. I'm keeping random linking 1-2 new pbns per week from the start.

    I used the same strategy for many sites but none of them has problem. I thinks I'm doing somethings wrong on this site like over anchortext, density, anchor of interlinking or just site old, etc.... My teacher said he would change the keyword density on title, des, url, content and play around with it to see if that can fix the problem. (I have no experience in this matter)

    Now I have two choice, One is keep building links and wait another weeks to see where it goes, and other is change keyword density and see what happends.
     
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    Are you worried about your kw density, what is it at? Because especially now that you have verified it's ranking on long tails so it isn't penalized it sounds like your content is an issue.

    However, I would keep on link building as well since, although it's low competition it's obviously not that low if you're ranking for lower competition long tails, so you're gonna want to keep your backlink campaign running while you try to get your site optimized as well.
     
  13. megavideolinks

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    Yes I worried about kw density and other onpage issue Because Im using diffrent content on diffrent moneysite so I never knows if one of them has issue cause "LOW QUALITY CONTENT", I have no experience with over optimized and I used the same PBNs for two moneysite (all $sites and PBNs hosting on diffrent company, diffrent IP, namesever,.., ETC) The other site rising pretty well.

     
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    What is your kW density so we can see if it's way off? And if you want to PM me your site I can look at it and make some suggestions in the morning but if not that's ok too no pressure ;)
     
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    thanks for the share and the following information, quite useful :)