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Is stealing £500 a month from a business bad?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by TheExecutioner, Aug 23, 2016.

  1. TheExecutioner

    TheExecutioner Junior Member

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    Wasn't sure how to write the title without sounding clickbait af.

    I've just recently got accepted for a digital marketing role and am in control of the digital marketing funds. This means I can buy links, content, etc for the business I work with.

    The pay is OK and knowing me, it'll keep me busy at work doing internet marketing for my own sites when I can.

    One question though. I'm going to be spending money on PBN site creations once I get the first deposit so I can rank the business.

    Would it be unethical to also be using the money for my own ventures by using the PBN sites on my sites too?
     
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    So basically, you are paid to work for a job and you will also, during this time working for your own project, so during the hours your are paid.
    And you ask if you steal their money is ethical right ? That is really the question you are asking ?
     
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  4. islandman1010

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    Wow you want to be a thief. Being a thief will always come back and Karma will get you.
     
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    You already know the answer. Besides, if you link to both your client's site and your own money site, you are leaving a huge footprint not only to Google but to your client as well. What if he finds out?
     
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    Wow.. besides of the unethical part, its just theft.

    Why you even asking this?
     
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    Take note, everyone. This is the same kind of person who will be on here complaining that they got fired, and act like it wasn't their fault.
     
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    You already know the answer !!
     
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    Yes, it's unethical but depending on how real you try to make those PBNs, dropping a few links to your sites isn't bad, if you add content to the PBNs without linking to the main site, it's usually recommended to link to wikipedia and authority sources and could drop a link to your own site there as if it was an authority source, but then again, many people don't do this and like most people said, it's kinda stealing
     
  10. Witicagnall4435

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    It's a bit unethical but I would be more worried about the footprint you are showing to Google.
     
  11. TheExecutioner

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    It was only a hypothetical question. I wouldn't risk doing it anyway since it's my first job and I need something on my resume.
     
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    Hypothetical or not, the question is pretty self-explanatory. The fact you are thinking of working on your sites when you can (within the allotted working hours, I assume) is unethical and using their resources for your own venture is basically stealing.
     
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    I dont think its unethical neccesarily.

    How about if you was already a PBN seller and you had your own PBNs and you used their money to buy links, that wouldnt be unethical would it, and its the same thing basically.

    I guess it really depends on whether they are giving you this money and you are specifically buying those PBNs and registering them as belonging to your client - in that case you cant really use them for anything else, or if they are just giving you this budget to spend on SEO. So i think its a grey area.

    What they are paying you for though is results, so I guess if you get results and use some of the stuff for your own benefit then no issue, but if you waste their money and dont get results, then you are in trouble.

    Having said all of that, agree with the above that you are potentially making a big footprint when you link to your sites as well as your clients, so this is somethin you need to think about.

    Here is another completely different spin on the scenario -

    Assuming tehy are giving you the budget to rank their site rather than to buy properties on their behalf, how about if you "use" the budget to build real and legitimate MNS sites - you keep these as your own sites, and you charge your client the same amount as whatever budget they are giving you for posting their links on these sites - they are then getting legitimate PBN links for their money.
    You keep and own the sites - you profit from the sites if you can rank them, and they profit from the PBN links. the more juice the sites get the more you both benefit - you from the direct income and them from the links.
    No footprints. Everyone wins. Not unethical because they are getting value for their money.
     
  14. DutchStuff

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    This is the same as checking FB and playing stupid games in work time. So inmoral :/
     
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    Guys, what the hell are you talking about? When did being lazy, procrastinating, surfing Facebook or playing games at work become immoral? It's sure a motivation and values issue but it is by no means immoral. Immoral is when you impregnate your little sister.

    The Op asked if it was okay to use a fraction of company's resources for own purposes. Let's imagine this scenario. I work at a construction company and need to drill a couple holes to put a painting on a wall in my apartment. Would it be immoral to take company's drill without permission to do that? Sure not the integrity role-model but heck, immoral? No way.

    Assuming you are not being hypocritical here (which I frankly doubt), you would have hard time doing business with this "radical honesty" attitude. In business such small 'cheating' happens every now and then. It is just a part of the game. I own a business and whenever I discover something like that, I prefer to turn the blind eye unless it's gone public and may harm overall morale.
     
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    You can't argue that he can take a % because he is finding them the genuine decent priced deals, that's precisely why they're paying him a salary, if they want to do things blindly they can just do that themselves without the need to hire anyone.
     
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    As per the OP, I think, the scenario should be:
    You are working at a construction company. The pay is OK, but still, you are using their resources to renovate/build your own house while being paid for the job.

     
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    lol ... OP seems like a lil kid or maybe just ignorant.. If u were my employee u will be fired and throw in jail for little while....
     
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    If they hire someone, who's not motivated to do the work and who's values don't match company's values, it's at least 50% their fault. I agree the Op is not an integrity role-model but it's not far away from how the majority of people act. I just know because I see such behavior everywhere. It is especially bad in millennials generation. The only 'cure' is to make working interesting to them.
     
  20. islandman1010

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    So imagine.. you just hire someone for a job... and in the 1st month they steal from you. So those of you saying it's ok will still be happy to know you employed a thief? And then as an amateur he completely messes up your own PBN links to your own sites. Once a thief............