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Is 'Site Age' really so Strong for SERP?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by luizeba, Jul 26, 2009.

  1. luizeba

    luizeba Regular Member

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    Hello mates...


    I'll write here my situation, and you guys will try to explain if it's right...

    I'm trying to Rank #1 in a keyword who has something about 650k monthly searches...

    I'm about in 4-5 spot...but it's ok...


    The problem is THE FIRST RESULT...

    Lets see...

    1- Both sites (mine and first spot) has the "normal SEO": titles, URLs, Metatags and these things optimized.

    2- My main page has about 650 backlinks at google. The First Spot's Main Page has 0 backlinks at Google. YES! 0! 0!!!!! ZERO! CERO! NADA!

    3- My main page has about 27.000 backlinks at yahoo. The First Spot's Main Page has 22 backlinks at Google (-.-)

    4- My website has PR 3. The First Spot Site has PR 1.

    5- My page of the desired Keyword has 41 backlinks at Google. These backlinks are from my own site (about half), and the other half is backlinks coming from Articles Sites and Blog Commenting in PR pages.

    The page of the First Spot has 1 backlink at Google. And it's from a inner-page of a PR-0 directory.

    6- If you do "Site:mysite.com" in Google, it shows about 2.000 results. If you do "Site:thefirstspot.com" in Google, it shows about 200 results.



    THE ONLY THING MY WEBSITE LOSTS IS:

    My site was created in February, 2009.
    The first spot was created in November, 2007




    So, now comes the question...

    Is 'Site Age' really so Strong for SERP?
     
  2. Micallef

    Micallef Supreme Member

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    Well it looks like it, yeah! Maybe Google just thinks that the content is more relevant on the other site.
     
  3. TheBHCat

    TheBHCat Junior Member

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    From everything that I've noticed, yes it is (to a certain extent). Once you get to a certain site age then it becomes less of an issue... but you have a site that is barely six months old up against one that is nearly two years old. I'd be interested to see if anyone else agrees with me as far as age only mattering to a certain extent.... and what they feel that extent may be?
     
  4. Bacanze

    Bacanze Junior Member

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    Well it depends how long you've been in the fourth, fifth position for? It could simply be a case of Google hasn't update the SERPs for that particular keyword phrase, or it could be your competitor does have a lot of backlinks, however they may be pointing to specific pages, and many tools only pick up domain backlinks. Feel free to PM me your competitor and I'll have a look.

    Anyways, age IMO is quite an important metric, depends really, I remember SEOmoz asking a lot of SEO industry experts and created a big list, it was a year or two ago, probably not as useful now, anyway it was ranked overall quite highly.

    EDIT: found it http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors

    Domain Attributes: http://www.seomoz.org/article/search-ranking-factors#cat3
     
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  5. viroid

    viroid Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    absolutely domain age matters. After awhile (6months - 1 year) everything evens out and youll have a shot at #1 and it looks like youll get it :)
     
  6. Grizzy

    Grizzy Senior Member

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    Site age is hugely important. For the big g, old is gold. In fact, they place so much emphasis on this SEO factor, that they have actually patented the practice of using a site's age to determine it's ranking in a SE.
     
  7. Albert

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    If you use the keyword in quotations ["(Keyword)"] you can see if your promotion is paying off most of the time. If your in the "" and you see that your site is higher, your site will see that particular jump. I have found this to be true most of the time.
     
  8. luizeba

    luizeba Regular Member

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    Hope you guys are right...
    Coz if was only that, it's only time to my site be in the first 1-3 spots for a lot of searchs...coz in almost every keyword of my site I'm in 5-10 spot, but the first results are really poor if compared to my site (poor SEO, less backlinks, etc...)