Is SEO Really Dead on BHW?

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Lately I’ve been wondering if SEO on BHW is slowing down. I’ve been active here but not getting many orders, and I’ve noticed a lot of people aren’t upgrading their threads or taking JR VIP anymore.

Is it just me, or are others seeing the same thing?
  • Are you still getting orders here in 2025?
  • What’s the best way to get more traction on your sales thread?
  • Has the focus shifted to other platforms or methods outside BHW?
I’d like to hear from people who are still making it work here. Any tips on how to stand out and get more orders would be appreciated.
 
The main issue I’ve been noticing lately is with the “hire a freelancer” buyers and sellers.

It’s basically the same thing on repeat fake and recycled. AI generated from new accounts where the same "sellers" reply over and over again with general copy pasta.

The credibility it's the problem I guess lately.

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I can tell myself,
I have no access to any stats to confirm that,
But BHW is kinda declining and flooded with spam,
Admins (& mods) need to take a more aggressive approach toward the spam spread here
We are working on it, as fast as we can...
If you see a spam post/thread please use the report button, we are behind that button :)
 
I’ve noticed a similar trend it feels like buyers are being more selective now. From what I’ve seen, sellers who keep updating their threads with fresh case studies, recent results, and transparent communication still get traction. BHW isn’t “dead,” but competition is definitely tougher and many clients are also exploring places like Discord, Telegram groups, or direct outreach.

Standing out here in 2025 probably comes down to proving value with real results and building trust over time, instead of just relying on the initial thread launch.
 
I have noticed AI spam overshadowing genuine threads.

I don't think decline in sales is BHW's fault.
More like general state of SEO.

With the AI taking over, "SEO is dead" talk is more prevalent that ever.
People seems more hesitant to buy organic SEO services.
AI optimization ones seem to be booming though.
 
We are working on it, as fast as we can...
If you see a spam post/thread please use the report button, we are behind that button :)
We see but we just can't prove it. Hire a freelancer threads from 1 post account gets filled with custom replies in one second feels like this is done by the same users or seller. But can't prove it. Even if you copy paste the same reply in every HAF thread it still requires around 15-20 seconds to open the notification and thread and reply.
Since Reports also need a bit of proof. Only speculations can't help.

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  • Has the focus shifted to other platforms or methods outside BHW?
At least some people have switched platforms. And not promoting these on BHW to make the junk tail follow.
But BHW is kinda declining and flooded with spam,
Admins (& mods) need to take a more aggressive approach toward the spam spread here
Fully agree. But some moderators and admins rather close a "suggestions and feedback" thread. I guess they are instructed to do so.
We are working on it, as fast as we can...
If you see a spam post/thread please use the report button, we are behind that button :)
That's often working fine for individual posts but does not resolve the underlying issues at all. This causes frustration and I am asking myself why I should do it when there are moderators around. BHW can be a community but this requires both sides to be (pro-)active.
I’ve noticed a similar trend it feels like buyers are being more selective now. From what I’ve seen, sellers who keep updating their threads with fresh case studies, recent results, and transparent communication still get traction. BHW isn’t “dead,” but competition is definitely tougher and many clients are also exploring places like Discord, Telegram groups, or direct outreach.

Standing out here in 2025 probably comes down to proving value with real results and building trust over time, instead of just relying on the initial thread launch.
Wow. Just after ten days on BHW!
 
We are working on it, as fast as we can...
If you see a spam post/thread please use the report button, we are behind that button :)
I didn't know that you're a mod now, congratz dude ^^
No blame for the mods for sure, it's more about the rules & the approach, mainly what's considered "okay" to post
 
Thread moved to the BlackHat Lounge.
 
We see but we just can't prove it. Hire a freelancer threads from 1 post account gets filled with custom replies in one second feels like this is done by the same users or seller. But can't prove it. Even if you copy paste the same reply in every HAF thread it still requires around 15-20 seconds to open the notification and thread and reply.
Since Reports also need a bit of proof. Only speculations can't help.

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Are you aware about the Watch button and what does? By clicking the watch button in any subforum you will get a notification everytime a new thread is created . I used this feature in the past when I was a seller to be the first or one of the first(S) in comment in HAF - WTB threads..
That's what they are doing to reply so fast.. There is no automation tool, trust me. There is no tool there, just system features.
You say it yourself, you have to wait a certain amount of time ( from 20-30 secs) to respond between threads, meaning it's real activity from real users who are quite active on the forum at certain times of the day...
There is no evidence that it is the same person either. We cannot act without proofs, and we search for proofs, always...
I ( WE ) know that some replies are AI generated, we've talked about AI many times, It is allowed as long as it does not break any rules. If you see a post or topic breaking any rules or believe it may be doing so, please report it and the staff will promptly address it.

I may not be the best person to give this type of answer, but I think it's important to clarify doubts and make things clear.
At least some people have switched platforms. And not promoting these on BHW to make the junk tail follow.

Fully agree. But some moderators and admins rather close a "suggestions and feedback" thread. I guess they are instructed to do so.

That's often working fine for individual posts but does not resolve the underlying issues at all. This causes frustration and I am asking myself why I should do it when there are moderators around. BHW can be a community but this requires both sides to be (pro-)active.

Wow. Just after ten days on BHW!

The team of moderators and staff is tasked with several things at once daily, so sometimes things can take a while, but whenever action is needed, it is taken. You can share your frustration. I'm listening, and we'll be waiting for your response and find a way to help you.
I didn't know that you're a mod now, congratz dude ^^
No blame for the mods for sure, it's more about the rules & the approach, mainly what's considered "okay" to post
Yeah man! A full mod now, thank you pal! Is awesome to see you here again.


Please leave your posts here, or if you have any suggestions or feedback you can create a thread in the subforum https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/forum-suggestions-feedback.26/
Threads that are closed are usually because they don't have much interaction or because they've been answered elsewhere.
I recommend using the search button before creating a thread to avoid duplicates and to keep the forum clean.
 
People are finding different ways to make money, Seo is not important than old.
 
I definitely haven't been as interested to visit the forum because of the amount of AI slop here. I report everyone that I see but sometimes I get a reply from the moderators saying 'you can use AI if it is helpful'. I come to BHW to interact with real people, if I want to read replies from ChatGPT I'll use ChatGPT
 
Lately I’ve been wondering if SEO on BHW is slowing down. I’ve been active here but not getting many orders, and I’ve noticed a lot of people aren’t upgrading their threads or taking JR VIP anymore.

Is it just me, or are others seeing the same thing?
  • Are you still getting orders here in 2025?
  • What’s the best way to get more traction on your sales thread?
  • Has the focus shifted to other platforms or methods outside BHW?
I’d like to hear from people who are still making it work here. Any tips on how to stand out and get more orders would be appreciated.
I no longer actively render SEO service so I can't really speak on that, but certain things have truly slowed down a bit. Also, you're currently not a Jr.VIP so I don't think people would be keen on placing orders with you.
 
Lately I’ve been wondering if SEO on BHW is slowing down. I’ve been active here but not getting many orders, and I’ve noticed a lot of people aren’t upgrading their threads or taking JR VIP anymore.

Is it just me, or are others seeing the same thing?
  • Are you still getting orders here in 2025?
  • What’s the best way to get more traction on your sales thread?
  • Has the focus shifted to other platforms or methods outside BHW?
I’d like to hear from people who are still making it work here. Any tips on how to stand out and get more orders would be appreciated.
Do you think it’s more about less demand for SEO in general, or just that clients are moving away from BHW to other platforms?
 
Facts...
People need less writers cause they can generate all their content with cheap AI or AI API at scale.
Links are easier to get because you can program an AI agent to do everything for you. :)
And people know how to do it. It's not rocket science. All it takes is basics of coding. There are more tutorials than you can count.

Most PBN sites produced by average SEOs are mediocre. AI agents are more than enough to create them.
 
actually, I prefer any content to read if it's posted by a human, but I lose my patience to read directly from the AI, BTW best of luck for your sales on BHW
 
Well, it's true so many fake accounts were generate on a daily basis with same intro from AI, which i have already reported most of the time. People are posting thread on HAF with different projects name but they are looking for same person. Specially the nwewbie.
 
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