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Is Sape still alive and kicking

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by richmorrison, Feb 19, 2014.

  1. richmorrison

    richmorrison Newbie

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    Have used sape links in the past with good results, but have been out the game for a while, obviously with the panda / penguin and reading that google is going after the networks was wondering if sape links are still working and what sort of duration they last for now a days.
     
  2. nematoda

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    You can try it again :. no pain no gain...
     
  3. Smeems

    Smeems Regular Member

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    Nope. No one's making money. It's dead. Nothing to see here. Matt Cutts won. No money to be made at all. Yup.
     
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  4. ChokeStone

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    It works better on parasites. It's not working as well on your own domains.
     
  5. socialblast

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    I use them for churn and burns sites and they work as good as before. Just be prepared to get penalised for using them at some stage.
     
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  6. ChokeStone

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    Are you using it for actual domains or for parasites/web 2.0s?
     
  7. socialblast

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    Actual sites and 301 buffer sites. I point my main keyword links to a number of 301 sites and then blast my actual domain with 100s of other keywords. Works well for me. I do also mix in links using GSA. Nothing good quality, it just diversifies it a bit.
     
  8. t0mmy

    t0mmy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Works as well as it always has! Key is knowing how to actually use it to find the best links within it, this in itself is a skill and what seperates the successful users of the network the ones still banking, from the noobs that have fallen and can't figure out how to get back up ;)

    Most of our clients now in "Speed Rank" are using it for churning and burning, heaps of other mixed link types with lots of different anchors then adding in the Russian links = rank n bank. Feel free to check out our thread for more recent feedback from first hand users.
     
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  9. mudbutt

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    well its not the same if you have to do 5x the work to dig up the links to give you the same result as back in the day. I've been using sape for churn and burn sites , but they're burning alot quicker than they used to, or not ranking at all. I hit really tough niches though, it may still work well with the medium niches.
     
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  10. t0mmy

    t0mmy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Deffos man, good point I mean the rewards are still there and its as powerful as it was when we first made it so public, but yeah the work load in finding the good domains is a lot more now, but I mean its worth it eh

    Agreed shelf life of them is a lot slimmer now, shit I remember we'd just point 100 of these at a site with nothing else and it'd go to the moon! lol, the game has most deffinitley changed for sure and thankfully most people know this too, it combined with a mixture of other links (nothing fancey some mass automated ones will do the trick) is still the fastest strategy for churning and burning I know of.
     
  11. DaleHarries

    DaleHarries Newbie

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    Yes, it's alive and well!

    It's probably more of short term thing nowadays, then again some members on here swear by it for longer term rankings too.

    I used Speed Rank last year to rank a short term travel related site. It worked and earned me a decent sum!
     
  12. t0mmy

    t0mmy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Would deffinitley never call it long term, you'd be crazy to rely on it long term or any bh method long term really.

    Don't recall you ever being a client of ours though? New nickname/account? lol :p
     
  13. ChokeStone

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    Tommy, I've been a lurker here for a few years now and I've always appreciated your down to earth no bullshit honesty in your posts. None of the other link sellers have that about them on BHW. They will feed you 50 different lines of bullshit just to get an extra sale. This differentiates you from other sellers here, keep it up. Smart buyers recognize this trait and will buy from you over others like leith because of their "Welcome in mate!" and blatant lies about reselling sape claiming it's not sape. If I didn't use sape myself, I would come to you first to outsource it.
     
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  14. t0mmy

    t0mmy Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Haha thanks man! its just my nature, be honest with clients thus avoid problems on down the line and call bullshit on the forum when I see it but that parts landed me in a few sticky situations around here, so I'm a little more secluded now from posting outside of my threads ;)
     
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    Running SAPE to a brand new site now. I pointed 150 PR3+ links to three pages, and one of them is dancing in top 100 for a 22k/month search. Links just finished dripping a few days ago, so another week before they'll all be indexed. Like tommy says, you have to use it the right way. They don't carry nearly as much weight as contextual links, so it comes down to cost per PR link. Even with the imbalance, I would still argue SAPE comes out cheaper than building a PR network or renting high quality contextual links.
     
  16. ChokeStone

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    Using SAPE the right way should be something that any SEO can do. You're choosing the best quality sites for the lowest prices to maximize ROI. If you don't know how to figure out if a site is good or not, you really shouldn't be doing SEO at all lol. Everything is pretty black and white with a little common sense sprinkled in.

    In my latest experiences though, SAPE hasn't been working as well on new domains as it does on parasites (that can be said for any type of link building, though). Even the latest case study that charles (god of seo), as much as I hate that fucker, his site crashed. google god of seo sape dead or something to find the post.
     
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    Yeah my site's dancing but I'm disappointed with the progress given I'm using 150 PR3+ links, the keyword isn't particularly difficult.