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Is it safe to just sell torrents????

Discussion in 'Torrents' started by lilacdemon, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. lilacdemon

    lilacdemon Newbie

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    On places like ebay, cl, or other classified ad sites?? Help out this noob.
     
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  2. EdwardddDDDD

    EdwardddDDDD Registered Member

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    Every tracker forbids it.
     
  3. lilacdemon

    lilacdemon Newbie

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    Thanks for the 411. I would never have known.
    But how do others make money with torrents if not selling?
     
  4. gergo2007

    gergo2007 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    upload a torrent whit : a .zip file whit password (containing the files needed)
    and a .txt whit: go to yoursite.com witch has a content locker whit cpa to get the password.

    If you want we can JV, maybe we can make some money.:)
     
  5. eloquenceeee

    eloquenceeee Regular Member

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    It is important to also have a massive amount of torrents when doing this. The more torrents you have, the more money you make.

    With a public tracker like TPB, try to buy or make a VIP account too. It gives you a better reputation with members and people will be more likely to download your torrent.

    If you want to get really BH, look into PPI software which could make you tons but comes with high risk.
     
  6. lilacdemon

    lilacdemon Newbie

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    Gergo thanks I have no idea what you said. JV, cpa? Remeber I'm green---dark green, Noob, I know nothing to very little.
     
  7. gergo2007

    gergo2007 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    JV = joint ventures. we can make some money together, you upload the files, i do the rest.
    CPA= Cost Per Action, advertising pricing model, where the advertiser pays for each specified lead.
    Wikipedia & google is your friend:)
     
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    eugesd Newbie

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    I dont really understand what you mean by sell torrents, could you clarify?
     
  9. timothywcrane

    timothywcrane Power Member

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    I wish there was a newbie of the year award, for i would surely nominate you. Thank you for the great idea. Every Tracker forbids the sale of distributed file linking text documents (AKA torrents). It is against their TOS (Terms of Service). It is not illegal to break the TOS of any given website, unless the prohibition also exaists in civil or criminal law (as far as i know, and I am not a lawyer).

    Other ways that you can make money using torrent sites often DO involve breaking the laws, usually on many levels.

    It is illegal to upload copyrighted content.

    It is illegal to download copyrighted content.

    It is against the TOS of most of your affilate programs to do so.

    Some Pay Per Instal programs take massive resources, and to truly rake it in, usually involve illegal access to others computers, through PC hacking, or may be extracting information themselves for illegal use (Though these two extremes are wide).

    But to sell a torrent? And/Or gateway its link?

    If it is against the torrent sites TOS, who cares. You will never download it anyway, just copy the link for re-posting. The account advantages of uploading etc., would mean crap to you (or at least to me)

    Take your link and put it behind a content gateway, with an enticing background related to the download.

    When the Ad in the middle of the gateway gets the requested information from your visitor, it disappears, and they are left with a nice movie poster and a torrent link in the middle. The ad company pays you a buck or two, and you helped the person find a movie, album, etc.

    You might need to search the forum for CPA redirect to learn about keeping you traffic sources private, and there are legit reasons to do so, but you might have just added a great twist to an old internet target source, that at least I, had previously overlooked.

    Rep given. Welcome to BHW and keep the creative juices flowing, It helps us all.
     
  10. bornformoney

    bornformoney Senior Member

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    Hey it's not safe bro...since it's illegal

    and to answer your question on how to make money on torrents...

    check out the torrent section...some person made $90 in 3 days...you should definitely check out that beautiful thread!
     
  11. wkirk

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    It depends on your jurisdiction. ( is that a word? ) ( legal system maybe fits better ) Ok so I mean the copyright laws in the seller's - your - country :)

    By selling the torrent file you basically actively help and encourage an other party to download copyrighted material 'in a business manner' - you get financial advantages from doing so. That's what you do when you sell a torrent from the law's point of view.

    If knowingly and deliberately helping or encouraging piracy for financial gains is against the law for you, and you don't have multiple identities or just testing the waters then try finding a loophole.

    By loophole I mean, don't sell the actual file, rather sell _information_. Like an ebook or something. Which tells how to download the data using torrents bla bla AND include the actual torrent file as an example.

    It may sound the same to you but it is not!

    Same stands for selling a username and password for a site which contains a basic information on how to use torrents ( and of course the file your selling )

    However the copyright mafia will be in your ass in no time so don't do it on a large scale when testing the waters. Like sell just one.

    If you're going for the large scale then you'll need multiple identities, eventually you'll get shut down no matter if it's actually legal or not.

    Let me tell you an example.

    Edit :[method removed]

    So my point is:

    Selling the torrent file is not the same as selling the release itself, but doing it on a mass scale is 'knowingly and deliberately encouraging and helping piracy for financial gains continually'.

    If you're in the US this is illegal. In a more liberal country it's legal with some twists applied I mentioned above.

    PS: this is just to hand down an opinion, but it's hard for me to define terms in legal parlance in english.
     
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  12. wkirk

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    Trackers make money usually by:

    Using a point system, where you can get points for uploading X amounts of data, and you can exchange these points for sending an invite.
    Like when you got 100 points you get an invite to send.
    But it's impossible to reach 100 points, but if you donate you get 100 points and some upload or donor status or whatever.

    Monetizing a "private" tracker is very easy.

    But still check the applicable laws for your country. For example the above method is legal here since they are donating and not paying.
    It's a difference.

    Don't take my posts as legal advice, I have no idea of your local laws but at least you know where to look.

    Won't go into further details, don't want to get banned nor disclose any more information on a public forum.
     
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