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Is It Possible To Rank Spun Content?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Poker Rakeback Mafia, Apr 20, 2017.

  1. Poker Rakeback Mafia

    Poker Rakeback Mafia Regular Member

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    I would like to follow the theory that if you can get 20 or so niche relevant posts ranking in the top 100 on google to link to your page, then that page should rank in the top 10 on google.

    Has anyone tried this with spun content?

    If I buy 20 PBN posts that are spun, will I be able to rank those posts in the top 100 on google?
     
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    Yes it should work, but ensure that the spun content are at least 95% unique.
     
  3. MikeyMikey13

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    I use some low quality-spun content for all my pbns. Works just fine. You've got to know what you are doing though, just pushing an article through an online spinner won't do it.
     
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    Spun content is good for link building purposes but it won't work if you use spun articles to rank for your desired keywords.
     
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    Doesn't that pose a problem though if you get a manual review? Won't google take you down for only having spam links if all of your backlinks are spun?
    In regards to knowing what you are doing, I've recently bought some PBN posts that are advertised as passing copyscape. I've read other reviews of the service though that say that they don't read so well, so I'm concerned that down the line, when that page hits page 1, that google might not like those backlinks so much.
     
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    Yes, You can rank your site with spun content. IMO it depends on your keyword competition. If your keyword competition is high, it's difficult to rank with just 20 niche relevant posts. You have to build more quality links as well as spun and unique.
     
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    Yes you can rank with spun content, but only on churn and burn sites IF you really MUST go down this approach.

    Copyscape is just 1 way to check for copied text, manually check random passages by pasting into Google search, see what comes back.

    There used to be a handful of softwares a few years back that fooled Google and Copyscape, by changing the unicode in articles. I beta tested one from a seller on here, it was a really good product as it was the exact same article but wasn't ever detected by mechanical means.
     
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    I'm hoping that my website will be long term and not churn and burn, so are you saying that I should never link with spun content?

    Is posting unique content on websites that accept articles, then creating a tier 2 of spun content to those, a better option?

    And what I was really asking is not, can I rank with spun content, but rather, can I rank the spun content itself? Ie, can I rank those PBN pages in the top 100?
     
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    Depends on your budget, if you have thousands for hand written content then use that.
    Some times none native content is worse than spun, but vice versa you can pick up plenty cheap ( $1 on BHW ) articles which are good to use on PBNs, Web 2.0s etc.

    Speak to @littlewebdragon , @bossofthebosses for samples of their articles.
     
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    Thanks.

    I've actually just messaged bossofthebosses for articles. I'll try littlewebdragon as well.

    Do you have an opinion on whether it will be possible to rank the spun PBN content that I've already bought, or would that be a waste of resources to build backlinks to those pages. I only want to rank those pages in the top 50-100 on google, but I don't know if google will rank spun content at all.
     
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    Yes it works, but why not get unique content pbn posts that could also help directly refer traffic to your site.
     
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    Because most of the sellers of unique content PBN posts don't allow me to build a tier 2 to their PBN's to boost the links.
     
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    Yes. you can rank your website with spun contents. But it might be sopyscape passed one.
     
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    Thanks. What I'm asking is, can I rank the copyscape passed spun content? Not my website, but can I rank the spun PBN posts?
     
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    It will be difficult to rank spun PBN posts in Google from my opinion. You can rank the posts from high authoritative blogs with HQ handmade contents only.
     
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    Yes you can. I'm tired of repeating this every few months in this forum, but understand this: Google is an algorithm - it cannot think or process documents like humans do (not yet at least), not even close. This IS exactly the major reason (among others) why backlinks will always work. It also means Google uses maths & graphs to understand context and find out what an article is all about. If you can produce content that is relevant to the algorithm, it doesn't matter if the content makes sense or not, Google WILL rank it.

    Here is a challenge: produce an article that makes no sense at all to a human but can rank well in top 20-30 with just on-page SEO alone. Basically what you're asking with a few twists - been there, done that lots of times. Now, whether this is actually a viable strategy for making money depends on the specific case and is open for debate.

    Remember, your end goal is to convert visitors to buy your/affiliate products, sign up for a service, become a subscriber, etc.. You won't manage to do that with spun content, because humans will read your content now, not an algorithm anymore. This is why as you move to the front page, CTR and other behavioral metrics matter so much more. If you managed to rank number 1 for a spun article which makes no sense and most of your visitors are returning back to the SERP-s in less than 30 seconds, you will drop in the lower end of the front page or even second page very fast despite the fact you might have the best backlinks in the world.

    Now, if you want to rank your Tier 1 sites past the front/second page where no human will ever read your content, go ahead and do it, Google will rank you. And your money site will jump in rankings like crazy when your backlinks get found or re-evaluated again.

    This is one of the reasons guest posts in REAL sites work extremely well for this, they will rank naturally for keywords in top 100 and if they don't, you can easily force them to rank. They will gain Tier 2 links naturally over time, so you don't have to worry about boosting your backlinks. Remember, these are REAL sites with real visitors run by other webmasters who most probably have the same goal as you: to get traffic and make money. When you buy 1 of these links, it's like you built 10 super web 2.0-s (as I define them) each with a Tier 2 backlink profile.

    The drawback? They are much more expensive and most importantly harder to acquire. You need social skills more than you do analytical ones. But they are well worth it. Your competitors that use shitty 1-page PBN-s won't be able to keep up the pace with you. That's because they need quite a few more times PBN links to outrank you. The power you get from a PBN link is nothing compared to the one you get from a guest post, especially if your network consists of sites with 15-30 RD-s and low PR (internal page rank). To take these PBN links to another level would require almost the same effort you put on the money site, if not more, which makes absolutely no freaking sense financially unless you don't care about money and are just experimenting.

    Another drawback is niche selection. If you have an Amazon affiliate site, it will be much harder if not impossible sometimes to acquire links from related authority sites in your niche, which is why most affiliates rely on PBN links to rank. In competitive niches however which are even worthy of news coverage, the situation is different. Guest posts provide the edge while PBN links are now considered a necessity, not the upper hand anymore. Just like web 2.0-s are a necessity in low-medium competition niches. Your competitors have backlink profiles of PBN links, guest posts, web 2.0-s, real natural links, internal links from other high ranking pages, social shares, etc... if you can't keep up in that kind of competition, you won't make it. And PBN links alone won't help you.

    So, my suggestion, depending on what your niche is: don't buy 20 spun PBN links in shitty sites, buy a handful of guest posts, take care of the on-page SEO in those posts to rank in top 100 for your keywords, link out to your site in key places on your post and the rest will be done by Google. Over time, your post will increase in PR if the owner is actively maintaining the site (which means he is ranking for related keywords) and your backlinks will be so much more powerful. That is why sometimes when a competitor outranks you for a few days, you might jump right back at your previous spot without doing anything. However, in low competition niches, don't bother. It's much more viable financially to buy PBN domains and make 1/5-pager sites with spun content than spend money, effort and time scouting for guest posts.
     
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    @THUNDERELVI

    Thank you so much.
    That post alone should be stickied.
     
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    I think you can rank spun content but not for long. One of the ranking factors google uses nowadays is bounce rate. Expect a 95%-100% once you rank as none will get any value from spun content. Once your bounce rate gets too high your rankings will tank.
     
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    you can fix bounce rate if you work a little bit on your website theme then copypaste it to your t1 blogs. all people care for is design
     
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    How now? I dont get what you mean. Please explain.