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Is it possible to move a wikipedia #1 position in SERPs

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by xposis, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. xposis

    xposis Newbie

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    Try as they might I am trying to think of creative ways to remove a wikipedia #1 position and get my client to #1. Has any experience of this, They are currently sitting at #2 for a very competitive primary keyword. All I can think of is;
    • build more links (ongoing)
    • Get a link from the wikipedia page to the site
    • Try knock it off using X-rumer, (can't see Google thinking wikipedia has been spamming, probably just make their position stronger.)

    Any idea would be awesome.

    Cheers
     
  2. webmast

    webmast Regular Member

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    You will have to edit that wikipedia article:
    1) Remove / replace important keywords with synonyms.
    2) Remove all wikipedia internal links that point to that article.

    Make it looks like you're actually contributing to wikipedia :D
    xrummer won't hurt wikipedia, don't waste your time.
     
  3. seoguru13

    seoguru13 Senior Member

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    no one can make money off wikipedia right? so even if your client's site is at rank 3 or 4, as long as there are no competing sites above him, it would not matter at all.
     
  4. Chrisss

    Chrisss Senior Member

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    It's definitely possible. But it depends on the no of backlinks to Wiki on the page that you want to outrank. Just keep on with your strategy.
     
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    benny1010 Newbie

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    totally agree with seoguru. people will not go to wiki for anything other than free info so it shouldn't make any difference
     
  6. BHopkins

    BHopkins Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Wikipedia has a lot of trusted high PR links. You'll need the same.
     
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    #1 in SERPs gets twice or more the traffic of #2 on average. It's incorrect to say that 100% of the time someone goes to Wikipedia they wouldn't convert on another site. You would be losing out on adsense clicks or even product sells. Either way getting ranked #1 is always worth it.
     
  8. goliath

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    i agree with webmast, go into the lions den and edit wiki until they are no longer a threat. its worth a shot
     
  9. xposis

    xposis Newbie

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    Thanks for the ideas. I agree with the theory that they might not return to SERPs and click on #2 after. I'll try get creative on the synonym usage and se if that works.
     
  10. TropicalSun

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    Keep building links, and 'manually' adjust the wikipedia pages accordingly as mentinoed in this thread. The main reason that the wiki page is ranking so well, is because of the internal linking strategy.
     
  11. nanotechno

    nanotechno Junior Member

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    It would be pretty difficult...I've done it before but it took a 1 1/2 years of SEO...maybe you could try something like buying some aged Wikipedia profiles and editing the Wikipedia entry multiple times filling it questionable grammar and content.

    Signed,

    A pretty nasty black hat strategy