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Is GSA worth the investment TODAY?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by Reeshua, Feb 18, 2015.

  1. Reeshua

    Reeshua Power Member

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    I know, I know. I already sound like a broken record given how "site:blackhatworld.com is GSA worth it" showed so many threads of this type. Last one I found was August 2014, so I will ask AGAIN.

    I'm planning to try automating my SEO so I'm planning to get myself GSA and Scrapebox and the other things that come with it. But is it still worth the investment today? I've read somewhere that GSA-ed sites were penalized? I don't know if that's just shitty linkbuilding or goog found a way to target GSA-ed sites or something. I don't really care about the initial investment because I'm thinking about the long run benefits of having a link building tool.

    So, what are your thoughts? Any answer is appreciated. Thank you!
     
  2. kbklash

    kbklash Senior Member

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    GSA will work like charm.You must know what you are doing.That's it.
     
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  3. chickensalad

    chickensalad Registered Member

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    Shitty linkbuilders always get penalized, then hit the forums saying "xyz is DEAD!!!!!1!1111111111"

    SER is like anything else - learn how to stay under the radar and you'll be golden.
     
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  4. Peter Ngo

    Peter Ngo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I think you are missing the point.

    You use automated tools to help you speed up your daily SEO tasks, so it worths or not totally depends on what you want to get automated.

    If you are unsure what to do, unsure what types of link GSA SER can build, unsure what its main purposes are, then i would suggest you not to.

    Download its free trial, and see if it fits you or not.
     
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  5. Atomic76

    Atomic76 Registered Member

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    I bought it a couple months ago, but have yet to run any campaigns with it. You kind of also need to get their Captcha Breaker software, and maybe their SEO Indexer too, to get the full benefit of it, in addition to a VPS hosting that supports/permits GSA to run on it - so there are some extra costs as well.

    I will admit, the learning curve on it is a bit intimidating right out of the box, because there are hundreds of settings you need to go through carefully and consider how you want to run your campaigns.

    Whether or not you get success from it or banned I think largely depends on how you set it up. If you go and hit up all the platforms on it, all page ranks, and don't hand spin your content - then you're more likely to get in trouble, for example.
     
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  6. nobody00

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    it's worth it for tier 2+ links, since penguin 3.0 it's risky to use it for tier 1 if you care about your site
     
  7. Reeshua

    Reeshua Power Member

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    True. GSA doesn't work right out of the box. I've already calculated how much I should be paying. Optimized it too so I would get the least amount of money spent. You should probably test your GSA, man. It's gathering dust up in the attic. LOL
     
  8. Reeshua

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    I might have worded my OP incorrectly, sorry for that. I do understand what I am doing. I'm not going to automate my SEO entirely.haha

    I haven't bought it yet, but am trying to learn as much as I can reading stuff on this forum, reading blogs (Jacob King and Matthew Woodward), and watching YouTube videos. Hopefully by the time I set the whole thing up, everything goes smoothly. :D
     
  9. MrGr33n

    MrGr33n Regular Member

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    You're basically at the exact same point as I am and asking the same questions I'm asking here. I'm also reading Jacob King and have watched all of Matthew Woodwards tutorials. And I also came across the same cost issue in that although GSA SER alone is ok, I would need to buy captcha breaker, SEO indexer, Kontent Machine, The Best Spinner, SER Engine, Scrapebox, Proxies, VPS and loads more things that I probably forgot. The price adds up fast for a person who is just getting their feet wet with blackhat seo.
     
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    Im in the same situation as you guys too. Took me a while just to convince myself to pay for GSA itself, but now I realize that GSA is just the tip of the iceberg. From what I can tell at least captcha breaker and scrapebox are mandatory too.

    I've seen reputable guys on here claiming that buying proxies is not that important, that GSAs built-in proxy scraper will do a decent job.

    As for getting a VPN, is that really necessary if you already have 100/100mbit internet and a pc running 24/7 at home?

    Never heard of Jacob King before, thanks for mentioning him will begin to check out his articles on GSA.
     
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    I won't touch many of those tools with a ten foot pole.

    That's just me anyway.
     
  12. MrGr33n

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    It's good to see other people here are at the same stage as me too. Hopefully we can one day become members of bhw that are able to contribute back with our successes. GSA itself is indeed the tip of the iceberg when you want to set up a tiered link building campaign. From my my research public proxies in conjunction with private proxies are good for pr checking and verification in the proxy settings section of GSA but private proxies are needed for submissions.

    You made the mistake of confusing a VPS with a VPN, they are different things and it's something I had to read up about a few days ago. There's an excellent thread here at bhw that explains the difference but I can't seem to find it. As far as being necessary or not I would say for me it is essential, I don't want to be running my computer 24/7 under immense load and spamming my IP across the internet not to mention electricity costs. Running a VPS takes care of all of that.
     
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  13. MrGr33n

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    Can you please say which tools you wouldnt touch and why? What tools would you recommend for a person getting their feet wet with bh seo trying to rank an affiliate site? Thanks.
     
  14. tophi

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    As I have scrapebox and LAIO which does pretty much the same as GSA but less effective, I must say that I changed my mind because, seo is getting harder. Those tier buildings do nothing when you don't have quality tier 1 , where you must probably spend most of your money. If you are beginner you will need about 1000$ to start small website with ~100 day per month and then HOPE and spend MORE money to get bigger.... My suggestion is spend your money on very quality links instead all those tools and get crappy backlinks.
     
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    Do you plan on becoming an expert using GSA? Do you want to spend the next year testing things, understand what works and what doesn't?

    If not, don't waste your money, because that's what its going to take to see results.

    Why not just contact some high authority websites in your niche and offer them money for reviews/links to your website. If you have the $$$$ sounds like the easy path to me.
     
  16. MrGr33n

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    Why would it cost $1000? I can make my own affiliate site using wordpress and then once I purchase the tools I'm set right? The combined cost of the tools I need plus costs like vps, proxies etc, was nowhere near $1000. Am I missing something?
     
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    My main reason for getting into this area was to learn the required skills to make money for myself so that I keep on improving as time goes on which means I make more money. If I outsource the link building, I don't learn anything, I'm not in control and I also can't trust that the person is doing what I paid them to do. I want to do everything 'in house' and become my own boss and not rely on anybody else.
     
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  18. chickensalad

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    VPS is unnecessary with your setup.

    VPS' have been pushed by certain assholes without explanation purely for the high commissions they get - a VPS is basically another computer with internet connection. If you already have a reliable setup, you're all set.
     
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  19. anon29

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    I concur with this.

    You have to be an extremely analytical nerd to get GSA to work.

    I bought the whole package: vps, captcha breaker, gsa, etc. Followed all the tutorials on the GSA forums and read blogs like Jacob King.

    still couldn't get the thing to successfully post backlinks (it was running, but it ran very slowly and the links it did publish never went live).

    I gave up after a few months. The settings are the most intimidating factor. Be prepared to scrape or buy GSA lists, which make the process even more of a pain.

    If I were you, I'd only pursue SEO if you were actually passionate about analytical stuff so you can tackle GSA. If you aren't, then do what other marketers do: blackhat for free traffic or buy your traffic. Much simpler and more effective.
     
  20. Peter Ngo

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    I disagree.

    I recently bought another 3core 3GB RAM VPS and i built a verified list with over 150k links with GSA SER alone, no scrapebox nor Gscraper lol. Getting too lazy.

    One thing for certain is that using GSA SER is noway near "you have to be extremely nerd", it is 99% self explanatory and 1% of common sense.