Is google killing pbns network after last update?

andrewcioffi said:

thank you for your advise, Nargil. Even with perfect history and crystal clean RD, some domains maynot be indexed. The percentage of unindexed PBN across our company's network is rather low: ~ 3% out of more than 120 domains. However with the recent batch of domains, 7% were not indexed. Since each domain that we get costs 70-100 depending on the quality of RD and their quantity, it is really not pleasant to see that they are not getting indexed and spend additional time replacing them.

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Send me those that didn't get indexed and I will check them for you. I can asure you they are not as clean as you think they are.

I think it is done I mentioned that there is a super easy solution like Guest posting which is just the most obvious one with higher ROI and almost NO risk if you don't push anchor text too much.

You said it as well. But IMO more than 80% of the PBNs are a pure shit.

[QUOTE="But yep, there's a risk involved and I never claimed that using PBNs is safe. Everybody knows that there are risks./QUOTE]

That is the main problem dogo I can get 4-5 powerful links for the $220 you mentioned above and will sleep well and will make more money in a long run.

But what I am thinking PBNs are the best SEO tactic on the plane! So innovative so ... 2011

Guys if you are the average Joe do yourself a favor and find another tactic.

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Well then you really have low standards for roasting buddy. I've asked maybe 10 questions in the course of the last few days and provided argument for everything that I don't agree with. You did not. You are still talking the same all over again. But yeh, this would probably work as a roasting tactic on ***** or in comments on Facebook under some political article.

Regarding PBNs being shit, could be more than 80%, not going to argue there. It's subjective and I agree with that.

Well you can get those links for $220, because you are good (at least by what you claim) in what you are doing. Just as I am good in what I am doing. Skills and experience lower the cost. I will stick to what I have been working with, it has been working perfectly fine both for me and dozens of unique people I talk to daily, so the problem is apparently somewhere else. And I would still love to see all those massive deinexed PBNs that got hit in this recent nonexistent update... where the hell are they...

Oh because guest posts are the best innovation of 2017!

I would just love to see where people like you get their egos from. It has always fascinated me.

I have a question. what if Google devalues expired/deleted domains for their SERPS?

FreshStart1Goal said:

I have a question. what if Google devalues expired/deleted domains for their SERPS?

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They claim they are already doing it. There would be way too much colateral if they did that. Plus, even what they claimed (bullshit) was pointed to domains that are not related. So if you stay at least within a very wide niche relevancy, then it should be perfectly fine. Not that they have been doing anything like that.

Google has been killing PBNs from time immemorial. That is how they earn a living. We just resurrect ourselves and do it again with new PBN links

danailo said:

Let's do some simple math

Undetectable or most undetectable PBN website cost around:

A good domain with 20-30 DA, quality content, and hosting

Domain = $100
Private Whois = $5
Reliable Hosting = Minimum $70 a year
Content - 3-5 articles ~ $100

$275

Alternatively, for this amount of money, you can order 4-5 articles for $50 and score a guest post on DA 40-50 websites. Not to mention you just need to send a couple of emails and order the articles.

But hey if you like to scout for domains, deal with hosting, installing WP, ordering articles, building links to the PBN it is your time right?

Let's check the lower end

Domain ~ $20 If you are lucky enough to get an expired spam free domain just for the renewal fee plus the other small fees like GoDaddy actions etc.
Private Whois = $5
Reliable Hosting = Minimum $70 a year
Content - 5 low quality articles ~ $25

$120 And the result is low DA domain with crappy content. Instead, you can get 3-5 guest posts on blogs with DA 25-35

And guest posting is just 1 way to spend your time and money on something more useful than PBNs. There are many other opportunities

P.S Skilled competition always will find a way to hurt you no matter how well you create the PBN and try to hide your backlinks from most backlinks checkers like Ahrefs etc.

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I do both. Even if you reach out and get a highTF link it will be on a page with a lot of other outbound links or it will be on a secondary page. PBNs you have the control. I usually recreate the site to what it was originally and only use shared hosting accounts. I pay $119 a year for a single host but that will host 20 different PBNs so the cost is less than $.50 per month per domain. To me it's worth it. I've made millions because of my PBNs. I have some sites where I don't use any and others I use them soley and some others where it is a blend. Just diversifty your strategy and you should be good.

inetguru987 said:

I pay $119 a year for a single host but that will host 20 different PBNs so the cost is less than $.50 per month per domain. I've made millions because of my PBNs.

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Becker? Is that you?

There is one thing though that cant be denied. Even if PBNs arent dead, they're ranking power has decreased over the last 2-3 years. It takes more PBN links now to rank the same site as it took before. Also I think the lastest update and google dance has something to do with user interaction, because my professional client sites, for clinics, hair salons etc,, have maintained ranking perfectly. Even though I used PBNs on them. But my amazon affiliate sites are the ones that have more or less tanked...

PBN's are dead
SEO is dead
Move along...

IMHO, Google has been targeting various PBN over and over and over again, on a yearly basis. This year, if your PBN grows too big, they will have an eye there. The next year, when there's lotsa influence on another big PBN, they will always have a hand there as well. Google killing PBNs are nothing new really, just that if you grow too big, they'll be there to clamp down those links.

I have to say.. a footprint would be to blame with this update..

And with the AI and it's development, smaller and smaller footprints are being recognized now.

submit said:

PBN's are dead
SEO is dead
Move along...

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Hahahaha, I love the sarcasm..

I've seen this post a number of times in BHW recently. They say this every year..

There will always be a way to create an income from organic clicks, Google/Yahoo/Bing..