Is getting a college degree worth the effort?

Just go to college and get a degree, you never know where you will end up and turning in a resume with only a High School diploma will get it trashed quick. Applying for any decent job without a degree is a joke, don't fuck your future self.

You can go to Community College for 2 years and transfer to a state University after that. Besides college is fun. It give you 4 years to find out what you want to do, experiment with a business if you like and have fun ... and you get a degree at the end. if you do go into debt ... get a job when you get out live cheap and pay it off in a year.

There's no reason why you can't start your business and go to college at the the same time, unless you're lazy. Don't give into to IM dreams, it changes quickly and is not a reliable source of income.

Also, look at the business failure rate, it's high and there's a good chance you won't make it. Don't give into this BS entrepreneurship meme in the US, you only see the successful, you never see the guy whose business failed, wife divorced him and now he's struggling to pay child support ... nobody writes about that.

For ever person who made a million dollars on some stupid idea and went to Shark Tank there are at least 50 that failed. This whole build a business pipe dream in the US is just a dream with 10% making enough money to survive and 1% making a good living. Those are just the odds, be real about it. You don't want to be broke at 30 with no degree and no decent job opportunities.

My plan is to build enough passive income to not have to worry about debt, then I plan to party while I explore w/e degrees I want stress free. I value knowledge for the sake of knowing not for the piece of paper telling people how smart I am.. I find everything interesting to some level, if you decide to go, go because you want the experience not because everyone else is doing it.

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whitewire said:

I value knowledge for the sake of knowing not for the piece of paper telling people how smart I am.

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That piece of paper has little to do with how smart you are. It demonstrates that you are willing to see things through, to persevere and have the ability to learn.

To VIP/senior/ whatever members: You dont need to be so hard with your answers. Let the kid make the questions about his future.

If you ask me, I regret having a degree in biomedical science. But that is because my country is so fucked up theres no jobs at all.

College teaches you more about how to learn rather than teaching you valuable information related to the workforce. You'll later discover this when you get internships. Apart from the learning however, I feel that college is just an overall great experience in ones life. You make new friends, go on adventures, and have a fucking blast for 4 years. I'm currently only a sophmore and I have to say that the past year and half has been the most fun and exciting moment in my life. College is worth it if your looking to build a life full of experience.

college is nice meet new friends learn from instructors and find someone to cuddle with, the effort is worth it specially if you got more friends around you, for me since I'm a scholar the experience is really nice and now i'm working, just go to college you can discover it yourself

No problem, I trust you'll make the right decision.
In general my college experience has been more about my personal development than it has been actual book smarts.
I've learned how to better interact with people, and gained more insight on the type of person who I am--that is judging by the company I keep.

I found that many college students are either too pretentious or opportunist or both. That is for good reason though as many people there are trying so hard to get a job at the end of their schooling.
It's also pretty safe to assume that most professors save a couple (usually from entrepreneurship discipline) will expect that everyone is trying to get a job and will gear their
classes/advice in the direction of the industry rather than business development. That really changes the dynamic of college (depending on your major)--that is--get a job. I can say that 95% of the students I have interacted with in the CS discipline have no intention of creating a business or doing freelance work which further solidifies my argument that college is a manufacturer of workers not innovators.
Don't get me wrong though I know a fair bit of people who are currently working on start-ups.

If you do find a group of like-minded--easy going people you'll find that you'll have a blast at college and it will make your stay that much more bearable. If your looking to have fun whilst at college, join as many clubs as you can or are interested in (for the awesome people) without jeopardizing your grades. That being said you can find awesome people and have great experiences as well outside of college. ( Meetup.com mastermind groups, ice hockey, whatever the hell you like doing the possibilities are limitless my friend)

Best of luck.

-xSoulBane

You don't technically need a degree to reach your goals and student loan debt sucks. Start out by taking some classes at your local community college until you decide what you want to do.

depends on what kind of career you want

It depends on the person.

Personally I fucking HATED college. I hated the soul sucking fluorescent lights and the agonizing hours spent listening to vacuous drones harp on about meaningless concepts I could read about in 5 minutes. I hated the pretense of trying to fit into artificial social structures that were inherently designed to put me in a disadvantaged situation. I hated the $60,000 I fucking blew getting a worthless piece of paper that won't serve me in any capacity whatsoever except if I need to wipe my ass.

I fucking hated every night I'd drink until I passed out and every morning I'd wake up crying from my nightmares.. wondering when I'd be free.

Fuck school. I still get fucking pissed when I think about it. By some miracle I managed to pull a 3.5 gpa in math and cs, but for as long as I live I'll never step into another classroom as a student again.

pewep said:

It depends on the person.

Personally I fucking HATED college. I hated the soul sucking fluorescent lights and the agonizing hours spent listening to vacuous drones harp on about meaningless concepts I could read about in 5 minutes. I hated the pretense of trying to fit into artificial social structures that were inherently designed to put me in a disadvantaged situation. I hated the $60,000 I fucking blew getting a worthless piece of paper that won't serve me in any capacity whatsoever except if I need to wipe my ass.

I fucking hated every night I'd drink until I passed out and every morning I'd wake up crying from my nightmares.. wondering when I'd be free.

Fuck school. I still get fucking pissed when I think about it. By some miracle I managed to pull a 3.5 gpa in math and cs, but for as long as I live I'll never step into another classroom as a student again.

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Sorry to hear that pewep.
I thought Hogwarts would be more fun.
I hope you at least made it onto the Quidditch team.

School is a money trap unless you are going to USE the education as credit to help give you a boost in authority and professionalism to get a job in that specialized industry. You take out a loan for an average of 32k yearly without living costs included or any additional costs like a car or equipment needed. You go for 6 years to become specialized enough to get hired, now your total just for the tuition is about 192k. So the government paid 192k to get you educated, now you need to pay 192k + INTEREST back. Your real cost of school is 384K + interest owed. The first 192k didn't come out of your pocket but it was PAID so you can get educated. The second 192k is YOU paying back the loan, and that does not calculate the varied interest rates you would need to pay as a loan penalty. People think "Oh I can do college" but by the time they become a doctor they have a huge debt they need to pay back. Yes you are only paying back your portion of the costs in return but its double that for the total amount of money spent on getting your education.

College is a shit option if you're smart. You just invested 384k to make 50k a year. Now take out your cost of living and taxes and you'll find you can't pay back your loan anytime soon. Prove me wrong, but you better do the math for the loan side and then what you would need to pay back as for the loan. Also include the bare minimum cost of living in a expensive shack and eating / driving + utilities for each year you are alive at college. If you can't take 384K in today's market and invest it to make even more money than going to work as a slave the rest of your life, start reading. You can flip ghetto houses for that kind of investment and make money off them compared to sitting on your ass all day reading books about how to properly cut open cadavers.

Your thoughts are welcome, but pleas keep everything real. My costs of college where averages I took from Google, and becoming a medical doctor might be more pricey due to the specialized nature of credits and classes you need to take for it. Also this does not include if you ever have kids, or whatever your lifestyle fancies.

What are you even talking about? You are all over the place changing things as you go in the post.

You go from $192,000 loan to $384,000 and then you talk about $384,000 in money to flip homes. If someone already has the money, why would they be getting a loan,lmao.

Depends. Do you want to work for someone else? Then yeah, you will need a degree. If you want to work for yourself, no. It's a waste of time and money.

BUT...

The lifelong friends and memories you create are worth every penny. College days will be the best of your life. The friends you make in college will be there for the rest of your life. You will attend each other's weddings, celebrate special occasions, and reflect back about the crazy fucking times you had.

Money and success is cool...but experiences and friends you will learn later in life are what matter.

These answers are funny.

Asking if college is worth it is only saying that you don't want to go.

I've went to house to house in several sub divisions in my area and sold business for my dad's company. It's not anything to do with the IT world. I am right now ordering many door hangers. My dad's company is my prime source of income. Doing web stuff is only but a side thing I do at home, but heck I have code skills in python from some college that I took. Youtube is very helpful too. I'm lucky with my dad's company, so I don't have to worry about anything really, but I do dream of building the next big web property.

Anyways, do what you want to do. I know making choices based on your life is hard because high school kind of puts us in that dependent mode. First get out of that thinking box and head over the hills with your ideas. Just don't break laws and your good!

Seriously, no. It's not worth it. I have like fifty credits towards a degree from my military experience but I'll never finish it. If it do, it will be out of boredom. Get money, get money, don't spend it, get money, get money, buy Venice, get money, get money, go ignorant. Hooah. #TaiLopez

Capo Dei Capi said:

What are you even talking about? You are all over the place changing things as you go in the post.

You go from $192,000 loan to $384,000 and then you talk about $384,000 in money to flip homes. If someone already has the money, why would they be getting a loan,lmao.

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To reply to your response only (As I didn't bother reading more of the thread). I'm sorry you got lost but the post was plain and clearly laid out as a example of average costs for college investment. My main ideas was that college was a waste of money to invest in if you are smart. You take a large sum of debt aka loan money and you waste it on the return of you getting a shit return yearly on the total amount spent for college. That was my view and ideology behind my post, and if you still got lost reading it, God help you buddy.

I took 6 years of college at $32k per year tuition cost. That didn't cover any books or related equipment needed for your classes. That also did not include food, water, shelter, transportation, medicine, etc stuff that is essential for you to live.

Also if they were rich, the outcome is only half the cost owed to become specialized, and for your return of investment its absolute shit. Some of the rich utilize a college degree as trophy, while others use it to further advance their goals.

Hope that helps some.

soulcollector said:

To reply to your response only (As I didn't bother reading more of the thread). I'm sorry you got lost but the post was plain and clearly laid out as a example of average costs for college investment. My main ideas was that college was a waste of money to invest in if you are smart. You take a large sum of debt aka loan money and you waste it on the return of you getting a shit return yearly on the total amount spent for college. That was my view and ideology behind my post, and if you still got lost reading it, God help you buddy.

I took 6 years of college at $32k per year tuition cost. That didn't cover any books or related equipment needed for your classes. That also did not include food, water, shelter, transportation, medicine, etc stuff that is essential for you to live.

Also if they were rich, the outcome is only half the cost owed to become specialized, and for your return of investment its absolute shit. Some of the rich utilize a college degree as trophy, while others use it to further advance their goals.

Hope that helps some.

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Food,Water,Shelter,Transporation is already an expense whether you go to college or not. And doctors make way more than $50,000/year so its still a pretty good investment to make.

If you want to be a programmer or IMer then it's not worth it. I might get a degree later as tuition doesnt cost anything where I am, because its easier to immigrate if you have a degree.