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Is EMD still good for new websites?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Bekbek, Sep 26, 2016.

  1. Bekbek

    Bekbek Junior Member

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    I will be creating my new website this week, and i will be monitizing it via adsense. Is EMD still good? I have a website created 4 years ago with no backlinks at all and still earning me around $60 - $80 per month via adsense. Thanks
     
  2. validseo

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    the perks aren't as good as they used to be, but they are still a great way to increase your search term match count in source without making things look weird to visitors. :)
     
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  3. yaaash

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    in my opinion choosing a wide niche name is better then narrowing it down to the emd
     
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    When I want to build a small niche. I go with an EMD. Yes, it is still good, but am not sure it holds much value again.
     
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  5. Bekbek

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    thanks for the input guys
     
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    • The most effective benefit of EMD is that it makes much more easy to develop targeted keyword anchor text from authority sites.
    • It is very useful for a startup to gather some relevant long tail traffic.
     
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    Hi :) can you explain what you mean? I'm very intersted
     
  9. DiMaster

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    EMD great for newbies. It gives you small boost at the beginig. It's not as good as it was few years ago but still legit to try)
     
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    EMDs used to correlate strongly with ranking position in the search results. (When I say "correlate" I mean I empirically measured the data and calculated the correlation coefficients and monitored them over time. So actual math and scientific method were used.) EMDs no longer correlate strongly with ranking positions in Google. They fixed the bug.

    BUT... keyword stuffing in the HTML source still correlates strongly for many keyword niches (and yes Google's behaviors change from one niche to the next)...

    One method of keyword stuffing that is technically allowed is using absolute URLs everywhere you can when your domain name contains your target keywords.

    So if you own "UsedCars.com" it is to your advantage to link like this:

    <a href="http://usedcars.com”><img src="http://usedcars.com/used_cars.gif" alt="UsedCars.com Logo"/></a>
    <a href="http://usedcars.com/used_toyota_cars">Used Toyota Cars</a>
    <a href="http://usedcars.com/used_ford_cars">Used Ford Cars</a>

    That way when you count how many times the words "used" and "cars" appear in the source you measure better than other pages.

    Need proof?

    Look at the HTML source for result pages from the google search "games"

    Or better: look at "DUI lawyer los angeles"

    #1:
    DUI: 223 times
    Lawyer: 144 times
    Los: 190 times
    Angeles: 176 times
    Attorney: 25 times
    DWI: 8 times
    Drunk: 7 times
    Driving: 8 times

    781 LSI keyword matches for DUI (you can identify the LSI match words because google makes them bold in the search results.)

    Could you imagine trying to compete for relevance with site like this and only using your target search terms 5 or 10 times on the page?

    I'm not saying to keyword stuff, but measure your competition and see how they do it without upsetting Google or scaring off your visitors. There is both an art and a balance to achieveing competitive parity in content tuning.

    Did I blow your mind? Good! Hopefully you will take measurements from now on! :)

    I'll give you a clue to another secret too: Where you keyword stuff is actually more important than how much you stuff. When you figure all that out it can save you a ton of work when competing with the big boys.
     
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  11. JV1999

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    Thanks so much man! I needed to know because I'm trying to get into GEO domain selling. I need more sales points for when GEOs don't have any SEMrush data or actual traffic stats to show. And this helped a lot!
     
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    EMD is actually not good for newbies and it's the worst thing for newbie to do. Why?

    Because EMDs can be easily, very easily, over optimized. And if you are new to SEO and you have no idea what you are doing, you can easily get burned. The minimal benefit of EMD is simply not worth it.
     
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    So how would you not overoptimize it? i have an EMD; productforsale.org, what anchor ratio would you suggest?
     
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    I think EMD still helps.. but sometimes they get penalize for having higher rank but have a low quality of content because of keyword advantage in their domain name. so it's better to be careful.
     
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    EMDs will still rank in Bing/Yahoo with almost no effort
     
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    Never heard about it
     
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    It will entirely depend on the basic objective of your site. Brand names are equally good but if you're just starting out you should choose EMDs over non-EMD.
     
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    EMD is okay
     
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    Some of them says EMD won't works anymore but it works still good!!!
     
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    EMD has been a big part of SEO competition, and it still works until now. But still the content of the work is the most important factor or sometimes EMD prevents you from achieving result you want from your site, so its effectiveness is debatable.