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IS DMAA (jack 3d original) save?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by wasseruhr, Aug 25, 2015.

  1. wasseruhr

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    Hey, I´m 19 years old and make workouts now for about 8 months. A good friend from the gym said that I should try an incredible powerful workout - booster called "hemoshock". It also contains the illegal substance "DMAA" from the banned Jack3d. Does somebody know if it´s save?
    I really appreciate your answers.

    Greets from Austria :D
     
  2. Asif WILSON Khan

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    So you take advice from some guy at the gym and now want advice from some clowns on an IM forum?

    I say, take an extra large dose and find out.

    http://rockcenter.nbcnews.com/_news...out-supplement-jack3d-outside-fdas-reach?lite
    http://www.gnc.com/USPlabs-Jack3d-A...Ks8HHvy!987902079?productId=45062716&kwCatId=
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/usplabs/jack3d-micro.html
    http://newkosportsnutrition.com/product/hemoshock/
     
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  3. wasseruhr

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    Thank you for your tip. I´m taking now the whole can and try it^^

    That´s a joke^^ No, I just want to hear your opinion. Probably a few tried it and share their experience. :)


    BTW: Your humor is divine^^ I really like it :D
     
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  4. Asif WILSON Khan

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    I am glad you like it lol, not everybody appreciates my sophisticated wit and sense of humour!

    As for the supplement, I don't know anything about it, but when I was your age I used to take all sorts of pills and various powders if I thought they would give me a boost.
    Now I am considerably older, I am more wary of the supplement industry, some of those products are just pure crap now.
    Anyway, hopefully somebody more knowledgeable will be along to share their experiences with it.
     
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  5. wasseruhr

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    People like you let me smile in this dark and hateful world :)

    I don´t want to use steroids or anything else^^ Some american protein powders are mixed with a little bit of steroids for better results. That´s why I normally don´t buy any supplements from america and just trust german quality :)
     
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    There is no actual information on it's true toxicity level, but with it's popularity it seems to be pretty safe if you take it in the right dosage which is 10-60mg per day depending on your body mass, however there is no scientific information about the optimal dosage too. Tho it acts as a neuro-stimulant it can give a positive results on a drug test so you should be careful using it. It is considered one of the most "gentle" stimulant nowdays between. It can be often dangerous not by itself but by stacking certain combinations such as DMAA and Vinpocetine or Huperzin A. In my opinion you should just stick to lower doses such as 20-30mg\day and don't stick to it on a long term usage. Also don't consider using it if you have any heart rate or blood pressure problems.
     
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    I've used many pre workouts before, the strongest was called mezomorph and it was crazy. I would suggest only using it now and again as it really gets your heart going. Definitely helps with your workout, you will be quite sore afterwards. Enjoy!
     
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  8. Sherbert Hoover

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    I helped beta test Jack3d back when it still had DMAA in it. Heart palpitations and jitteriness were not pleasant on leg day.

    Now it's just Kool-Aid powder :(
     
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    I know a few lads that used to take Jack3d and thought it was great. I never used it but would have no problem trying it. As other users have suggested give it a go, small dose to start with and see how you get on.
    When I have taken pre-workout sups on the past they are good while you are on them but you dont half feel it when you are not taking them.
     
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  10. wasseruhr

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    Thank you for your answers :)
     
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  11. wasseruhr

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    What? You don´t skip legs day? xD
     
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    lol, mate, protein powders never contain steroids. Do you even know what steroids are? Do your research first.
     
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  13. wasseruhr

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    Haha, yes I now what steroids are^^ I did my research my friend^^ For example : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zOERaGsmy8
    Also some big german youtuber said this^^
     
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  14. AFSTER

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    I took the original jack3d nearly every day during the week and had weekends off, 2 scoop every time and was fine, great for workout, even had it when playing football and running around like a headless chicken lol

    they then brought the new version without the DMAA and was weak and no good (Jacked3d Micro i think) , then i moved onto Craze which was good, then they also released Frenzy

    its got bad name in the UK because someone died running a marathon and then later realised that person had heart issues

    just take one scoop and see how you go, i never took more than 2 a time and waited 24 hours before the next one

    a friend of mine got a jitters on one scoop and i had 2 scoops and never felt any jitters, just a great buzz and energy

    you can always try a weaker pre workout and see how your body reacts to it first

    Always good to cycle it as well, do it for a few weeks and then have a week or 2 off before your body gets used to it, then next thing u know u having 3 scoops lol
     
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    If you don't have any heart disease you should be fine, ofc if you don't abuse it. I know quite a few people who took it for almost a year maybe with 10 days of every month or so and they are ok, but hey i'm not a doctor and they're not either.
     
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  16. wasseruhr

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    You took it before playing football? Are you crazy? :D That sounds really extreme^^ I think if I would do that I would get a heart attack xD I think that´s really dangerous. Do you measured your pulse in this situation?
    I took today one scoope and it felt amazing :) Explosive pump and a really long endurace. And I got a really good focus. I think I just use it on leg day :)
     
  17. AFSTER

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    well football (UK) i mean soccer for the american audience :)

    yeh i have a polar heart rate monitor as wanted to always push myself at the gym, so i wear that and i used to be on about 170

    yeh just take it easy and see how you go, make sure you drink water more than usual

     
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    I still use it, it pops up on ebay from time to time. Its just a stimulant not much different to caffeine, puts your heart rate up though so when donuts use a high dose and then run a marathon with a pre existing heart condition they die lol
     
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  19. wasseruhr

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    I also had unterstand football(uk) :) In Austria we also say football and not soccer. I´m also using a polar heart rate monitor and my maximum was about 190 for a very short time^^
    Thank you for your tip. I´m currently drinking during the workout about 2 liters (0.5 gallons) of water.
    Have a great workout :D
     
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    I probably went through 15 tubs of the original Jack3d and im still doing alright ;)
    Try Frenzy by driven sports if you are NOT in the US, they sell it on predatornutrition.
     
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