As most people know I have been making bots for a while and, even if I say so myself, they are not that bad but recently I have seen a new breed of coder / bot maker appear that made me think back to when I had my hosting businesses. They come in and undercut everyone else, to a point I wonder how they are actually making money. I saw the same thing happening in the hosting arena where everyone was offering the world for pennies (and people here have heard me spout that a lot before!) and it was at that point that I made the decision to sell up both the businesses, take the cash and take some time out. My prices are not that expensive so I thought, but given the current financial situation across the globe it would appear that the basis of bot purchasing is now based on price (again, something that mirrored my experiences in hosting). I could compete with the lower priced people but what kind of support are these people giving if they are making a couple of bucks on a bot? I pride myself on support so thats why the prices are set to the level they are. I learnt that the hard way when I first began - one particular bot needed that much support (due to the site changing, not bot quality ) that it worked out that I lost quite a bit of money! Perhaps I am wrong and this is only happening on BHW, I will have to investigate other forums to see whats happening elsewhere, but I guess its time to revisit the business plans and see what else can be done. Thought I would post as I find it strange that what I saw in hosting about 8 years ago has now started to appear in exactly the same way in the BH / automation world. I am trying to second guess where this will happen next...... I guess what I want to say is good luck to the new breed of bot makers, and good luck to the buyers - it seems we are entering a new chapter in the automation game.