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Is blackhat seo dead ? or almost dead!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by karasu1995, Aug 25, 2016.

  1. karasu1995

    karasu1995 Registered Member

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    I can't rank anything anymore in 2016 with seo....

    GSA doesn't rank any shit anymore ,i have tryed many public lists (all fail to rank anything ,few months ago i was ranking small niches just fine).

    SAPE still rank but only foreign niches (and in 3-6 months i already get algoritmic penalty, and i have to remove backlinks to keep my website) BUT ONLY IN FOREIGN NICHES CASE. Because in english ,the website will get SPAM PENALTY within a month and i can't recover it anymore, all english websites gets SPAM PENALTY (OH MY GOD, what has became of seo?). I have tryed sape on buffers wordpress too and i still get spam penalty regardless.

    PBN didn't tryed but i doubt it will be 100% undetectable, probably it will be like sape

    Do you guys have any idea where i am mistaking? I know lot of websites have been dissapperead from Search Engine so this is obviously not my fault. I have experience with seo, i am not noob but i just can't rank anymore... What i am doing wrong ?

    To me is weird that BLACKHAT SEO services are still working... or perhaps they don't.
     
  2. Lunaaa

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    Pbns. Google is getting smarter and you can't use old techniques. I don't think blackhat seo will ever be dead.
     
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    Jobdollarr Supreme Member

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    Each blackhate seo have to adapt to the latest google algorithm.

    You can not rank if it were banned google you do.

    One way is to adjust techniques rank backlinks with google algorithm changes



    Traffic does not always come from a google search.
    But if you rely on google keyword.
    You have to adapt to all the changes that have
     
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    No you can't just spam backlinks on forums and footers of your blog network anymore. Gotta work bitch - Britney Spears.
     
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    seoscientist Registered Member

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    Op you mention that it is wierd that the "Blackhat SEO Services" are working.

    Then have you tried in "general" what these services are doing?

    Tons of Web2.0 and PBN?

    It appears you are using only Sape and GSA which is not the bulk of the services here.
     
  7. rodvan

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    There is no public Black Hat methods any more...
    You wont see any XRumer, Scrapebox, SEONuke or GSA Search Engine to rank your site.
    No, why? Because a freaking software where 2 or 3 engineers coded, wont beat thousands of engineers avoiding this methods.
    You know?
    PD: The only way is to code your own BH private methods and upgrade them eventually.
     
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    T0NYS Supreme Member

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    nothing is working , mcdonals.com/careers . check that out lol
     
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    dbk03 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Search Engine Optimization will always work. You'll always have something to do in order to optimize our content/ website in which regards its performance in Search Engines.
    Blackhat SEO could be thought dead...but it isn't...it's just harder to do it because Search Engines become smarter and smarter
     
  10. redarrow

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    Black hat easy what you on about.

    Pbn
    Pyramids
    Youtube
    Facebook
    Comment posting
    Forum posting
    Exspired domains
    Exspired articles
    Blog posting

    1 tier , articles, 2.0, pbn work fine
    2nd tier blogs ,articles , some 2.0 work fine
    3rd teir use gsa works perfect

    Scrapebox i use all day works fine.

    Gsa ranker works fine

    Works for me ....
     
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  11. RalphSEO

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    As I said before Blackhatseo is totally dead, especially from the last 2 months. This comes from someone running a lot of sites
     
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    Still working like a charm in 2016. You just need to adapt and ofcourse think outside of the box.
    Forget all those old 2012 GSA/Xrumer/ Methods with scraped lists. The only thing those methods are good for these days is to derank your medium size competition.
     
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    Can you please tell me what methods you done on this forum ,and show me thay dont work please. (( old methods from x2 years still work on here))

    Have you even read anythink on the forum?

    So if i go and get a exspired domain with good cf and da and then load wordpress and then add metatags then 12000 article on my niche but also add facebook, twitter, post 100. 2.0 to the website , write some rich articles pointing to the website ,

    Then add pbn from a new hoster , get a new exspired domain heigh da, cf,add 100 exspired tumblr accounts in my niche all pointibg to my website, add 50 rich articles in my niche, add 100 2.0.

    Block all refering domains from google and others eyes with the htaccess.

    Do you think ill get anywhere ?????

    Black hat here for life all bullshit
     
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  14. rodvan

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    Hahaha, I like you mate... Is the only thing you can rank a site, anything else is working manually and out of the box, many times.
    Perseverance is the key and learning from mistakes. Ohh so many mistakes Ive done using Black hat methods, its like building a castle of sand.
     
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    We are talking here about the long run. There are many Black hat methods with random timings and its not using any of this old softwares that worked wonderful 4 years ago. But Matt Cutts did his job very well.. All ranked sites went down and many that used blackhat methods and monetized well, migrated their original income to other more stable business. That is a fact. But if you hire writers and have constant original content and support yourself with what you say of accounts in social media that share your link, that will work. Definetely. But as they say, the golden rule, "Content is the King"
    If you want to earn money but you are not thinking in the future, in the peace of mind. You might think about Black Hat SEO as an option.
     
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    If you think blasting random backlinks to your site is a seo strategy you're crazy.
    Try a multi tiered strategy
     
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    You cannot use spam to rank anymore... Focus on pbns and web 2.0 and use multiple tiers.
     
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    You can still use blackhat tactics like buying links and tiered link building. It just needs to be higher quality. Also, your content matters more than ever. Not just how robust it is, but does it actually have value and does it provide information? Are you giving users what they want? If not, Google doesn't like you. Your footprint also needs to be more holistic. Start a branded domain instead of buying "bestwidgetreviews.xyz". Create real social accounts and reap legitimate signals from your shares. SEO in 2016 is all about looking and being natural. Consumers and search engines are more intelligent than ever and can see through the low quality bullshit.
     
  19. rkss

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    I find your original post kinda hilarious man. Don't know what to say but.. you are one spammy f**ker for sure lol

    Guess these days you have to concentrate more on quality rather than going all out to spam with the hope of ranking.
     
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    Each niche have her own defense grades. What will work for region low requests never will work for pharma or payday loans