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Is Black-Hat SEO Illegal? [ANSWER HERE]

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by WizIMS, Feb 9, 2012.

  1. MrBeastsOnToast

    MrBeastsOnToast Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    its amazing / dumbfounding what some people define as black hat - im sure i saw someone on here a week ago asking for advice on using a stolen credit card.
     
  2. thetroglodyte

    thetroglodyte Power Member

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    haha that's funny. However, there isn't that much competition anyway because most Black Hatter's waste their time on garbage services and products like scrapebox blasts.

    Quality work takes either time or money and 99% of people aren't willing to give either.
     
  3. omida86

    omida86 Power Member

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    Nope, not illegal. Although Google would like you to think that to hide it's algorithmic flaws..
     
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  4. swtor005

    swtor005 Registered Member

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    As soon as the thought comes that you need off-site SEO for your business and that you are not going anywhere with all the on page SEO, means it will violate one condition or the other as per g00gle TOS. But who cares...

    I am not doing extra-ordinary stuff that no one is doing in the world like making a car that will take me to moon bla bla... That would not need SEO at all. No one here has invented anything like that for sure... We all are competing with each other in one way or the other. The only way we can achieve our goals is by going against G's TOS. There is no other fk.. work around.

    "For me White Hat, Grey Hat, Black Hat are one and the same thing."

    If something is not flowing NATURALLY then it is XXX Hat.

    Example you have a jewelry store, only things listed will be stuff, their prices, add to cart and so on there is no way you can get a visitor for next decade if you go by TOS.

    You open your money site and ask to yourself. How do I xxx?

    Well some serious ones end up on forums like BHW, etc. start learning new tricks yes NEW TRICKS.

    This is evolution my dear friend. NOT FOR US, but for g00gle. We keep making new tricks here they make new changes at their end to counter us some of them and trap us. We again invent something new here at which might be countered by G sometime later.

    We here at BHW or similar forums are always ahead of G in one form or the other.

    There is nothing illegal, unethical absolutely nothing. Here are some of the things that have evolved in last decade or so

    1. Back in 2000 H1 tag controlled with css to hide it completely was enough to make SE's happy
    2. Web Directories
    3. Link Exchange
    4. One Way Links
    5. Forum Links
    6. Article Directories
    7. Bookmarking
    8. 3 way linking
    9. Wiki Links
    10. Tweet's
    11. Link Wheel
    and so on

    We invented them all and it was at a later stage that G's algorithm were developed to counter all these. Does not mean they lost weight or importance but excess of any of these will definitely penalize you for sure.

    The focus was on page earlier then it shifted heavily towards backlinks and now it is loosing importance. Soon or later it will be like 50-50 on page and backlinks (roughly).

    Say To yourself - My online business is my bread and butter I will do anything to stay ahead of others OR to catch up with others. I will keep doing my job. Let G do its.

    Every bloody tool / service is there in this forum. Pick them wisely and you are ahead.
     
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  5. thetroglodyte

    thetroglodyte Power Member

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    Exactly!
     
  6. thelinkjuice

    thelinkjuice Newbie

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    No, I dont think its illegal. Its just the way it is, and most people arent really black hatting the system. Rather using tricks and holes to get to the top!
     
  7. shadowfax

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    It's like taking a shortcut when most people are taking the longer route. I don't think it is illegal unless you are stealing of course. Search engines also benefit from black hat techniques as they discover glitches and loopholes in their algorithms. Blackhatters deserve to be rewarded for their ingenuity and cutting edge techniques.
     
  8. keytenx

    keytenx Supreme Member

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    for me it is more like the unconventional way to do SEO. :)
     
  9. tony23

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    Because we 'game' the system the system (search) has to get better, that's good 4 everyone who uses the internets,... and keeps us chatting here.;)
     
  10. WizIMS

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    hahahahaha lmfdo
     
  11. ardley216

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    Blackhat is a cat and mouse game, you'll always be chasing.

    Whitehat is following the book, very boring, not as fun, but at least IT WORKS.
     
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    WizIMS Power Member

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    I think it all depends:

    Your Business > Money = White-Hat
    Your Business < Money = Black-Hat

    I'm not saying one of these are wrongs, it's just about perspective. (I do both.)
     
  13. Lutherblissett

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    If only it were that cut and dry. . . can someone shed light on what exactly is white hat. To my knowledge truly white hat is creating something and hoping others find it interesting. Post a few videos about it .. and boom your in the millionairez club.

    As posted earlier it was noted . .
    Did i miss something?
     
  14. Choronzon

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    The question is kind of backward. The real point is, if it's illegal it's not blackhat, not under it's proper definition.

    Oh and on a separate note,why is the word blackhat not recognized by the forum dictionary? Weird.
     
  15. orzyman

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    ok the question is what is black hat SEO
    when you know what is black hat seo then we can determine if its legal or illegal
     
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    BlackHat is free 0_0 WhiteHat is expensive -_-

    BlackHat For Life baby ;)
     
  17. TheMatrix

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    That makes no sense in black hat SEO. You spam 1 site or 100, it will still be spam!
     
  18. razvan273

    razvan273 Newbie

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    Hahaha ! Nice one ;) ! What a cool guy you are ! :D