iptv, the usual gateway issue

Hello all, we've been running an unlicensed iptv reseller site for quite awhile (we host no iptv content only sell subscriptions). We've been through the usual gateways like paypal, stripe, square and others. We all know they don't like iptv so they eventually closed the accounts. We ended up with godaddy payments go figure and they were the best processor we've ever had. Had them for years until recently when some undesirables did some chargebacks and that got them alerted to the site. They gave us all the money that was in the account and ended on good terms if there is such a thing. So we went with the credit card to crypto gateway with paygate and with blockonomics for bitcoin. This works for many people but not all and it's an issue.

So here's the question. Do we make another site and do the whole redirect to site B for payment thing like we've seen many do in other threads using a cloak system like cardshield, paygate and others or do we work to find a high risk processor we have to pay whos know what to process our card customers?

It's easy enough to buy a domain and make another site for site B for the redirect thing and pay a monthly fee or one time payment even though not sure what legit stuff we'd have site B running (reseller hosting? made up consulting site? News site?) . If you have ideas on that please let me know.

So basically what would be the most economically feasible and more bulletproof way of handling this in your expert opinions?

Focus on bulletproof cloaking, or keep your payment processing manual and reactive to orders.
We split our sales across many channels -
5-6 PayPal accounts
2 Stripe Gateways
Cryptocurrency USDT (Multiple Wallets/Providers)
Local Bank for Trusted Resellers/Renewals/Referrals (Risky if not done right).

XrumerGeek said:

Focus on bulletproof cloaking, or keep your payment processing manual and reactive to orders.
We split our sales across many channels -
5-6 PayPal accounts
2 Stripe Gateways
Cryptocurrency USDT (Multiple Wallets/Providers)
Local Bank for Trusted Resellers/Renewals/Referrals (Risky if not done right).

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Thank you for the info. That makes good sense. We are leaning to using a cloaking system so we can just process payments on a whitehat site. Also changing to USDT sounds better too for the pegged rate to the dollar. We have the wallet but need to get a different gateway for crypto.
If you have a suggestion on who to use for the cloaking and a nice crypto gateway that works for our type of business we'd appreciate your knowledge.

trustedsource said:

Thank you for the info. That makes good sense. We are leaning to using a cloaking system so we can just process payments on a whitehat site. Also changing to USDT sounds better too for the pegged rate to the dollar. We have the wallet but need to get a different gateway for crypto.
If you have a suggestion on who to use for the cloaking and a nice crypto gateway that works for our type of business we'd appreciate your knowledge.

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You can also trade USDT totally anonymously using the following method;
receive USDT wallet#1 >>> swap to XMR >>>> send XMR to wallet#2 >>>> change XMR to USDT in wallet#2 >>>> untraced USDT#

XrumerGeek said:

You can also trade USDT totally anonymously using the following method;
receive USDT wallet#1 >>> swap to XMR >>>> send XMR to wallet#2 >>>> change XMR to USDT in wallet#2 >>>> untraced USDT#

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That's some good info too! The switcheroo lol

Crypto’s cool but normies hate it, you’ll lose conversions without a card option.

natsuko said:

Crypto’s cool but normies hate it, you’ll lose conversions without a card option.

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You're correct about that. Most our customers hate crypto or just don't want to even try it even though it's better for them as far as security goes.

iptvmate said:

You are doing the crypto part right with blockonomics. Thats what i use as well for crypto and for other payments i just take card via rental agencies that charge a % to handle payments for me, they did the cloaking and keep orchestrating bw multiple stripe accounts. this strategy works well, im in the USA so i also enable apple pay, gpay and cashapp via the stripe. besides these i dont see any other gateway thats needed like everyone with paypal defo has card or cashapp

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Blockonomics has been good to us so far and it works very well. Hmm I didn't think about using a rental agency but that seems to be at least easier on our part of we don't have to keep a bunch of accounts open because they do that work. We are also USA based and that may be a route we need to check into.

iptvmate said:

thats good choice, good luck with your journey

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Thank you ! appreciate you sharing your knowledge! I'll post a thread later looking for a rental agency that can take care of the card processing for us. It's a hurdle that needs to be cleared.

Paypal is the best for IPTV. Without Paypal, you'll lose many orders.

Toelorbo said:

Paypal is the best for IPTV. Without Paypal, you'll lose many orders.

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Thank you for the info! We had a paypal gateway but as usual it got bonked. I assume you are using a cloak or similar to help against getting your account closed? It's easy enough to make a new paypal account but they kept the money we had built up in the last one. That's our fault for leaving money in there tbh lol

Yes, I use a cloaker and bulk Paypal accounts. The system is very stable.

Toelorbo said:

Paypal is the best for IPTV. Without Paypal, you'll lose many orders.

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Stripe is just as trusted, so providing you have one or the other - but we ultimately use both.

Toelorbo said:

Yes, I use a cloaker and bulk Paypal accounts. The system is very stable.

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Thank you for the help! Definitely going to have to use multiple accounts from all I've read. The price of doing business it seems

XrumerGeek said:

Stripe is just as trusted, so providing you have one or the other - but we ultimately use both.

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When I first tried stripe I had no issues at all really other than the account getting shutdown for tos issues. Paypal worked well also but they kept money which was a major downer. As long as it's cloaked or running through a good system where it's hidden we'll try them again and see what happens! Thank you for all the tips it's well appreciated!

Very informative thread. Thank you for sharing your knowledge guys.

Amazing thread. Learned alot. I am also in the same boat of yours doing iptv, was using aged paypal and crypto (didn't knew about cloaking etc). Will hopefully now test again with a cloaked paypal. Do update the thread once you found a reliable cloaker service, as i see many different service.

I’ve been in the same space for a while now, and we recently did test ads; the demand is massive. We’ve already got the site, backend, and funnel set up, but we’re currently blocked by the payment gateway issue.

Most of our clients prefer card payments, and crypto conversion just kills the flow. Looking for a solid cloaking setup and a stable stripe/paypal structure that can last more than a few weeks. Volume won’t be a problem once we launch.

If anyone’s running this at scale with a reliable cloaker or processing partner (even if rental), feel free to reach out. Serious setup, just need the last puzzle piece.

XrumerGeek said:

Focus on bulletproof cloaking, or keep your payment processing manual and reactive to orders.
We split our sales across many channels -
5-6 PayPal accounts
2 Stripe Gateways
Cryptocurrency USDT (Multiple Wallets/Providers)
Local Bank for Trusted Resellers/Renewals/Referrals (Risky if not done right).

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Really valuable info btw. Thanks!