iPhone Phone Farm

SiliconHF said:
Forgive my language but there is no other way to express this: It was a shitty solution. Beyond shit. & A huge pain in the ass for the entire duration we ran it for. It's a novice solution for people that don't know how to do it right, especially if you're trying to scale to fill / send tens of millions of instagram likes or tens of millions of instagram followers using them.

It just doesn't work or make sense to do using iPhones. The reason we stopped is because we became more advanced and switched to using Pi's, and then eventually, switched to 4x Ubuntu 32-core servers which now perform and send the same amount of actions equivalent to thousands of iPhones. So 1x server = roughly 1452 iphones.

Our evolution chain was:
- Bypassing SSL Pinning and hooking the Instagram iOS app via tweaks to intercept and replicate requests. That way 1x iPhone would become 5-6x iPhones because it would run 5-6 accounts at the same time and simply replace the POST / GET data relative to simultaneous account data. AutoTouch would be active on runtime. & we even hooked certain functions to disable post loading and used uiopen:// to speed up the load posts process. Ex: uiopen://instagram?mediaid=1

- Eventually got rid of all iPhones, switched to a ton of raspberry PI 4b+'s. Horrible solution and investment. The code would run on each pi and it would virtualize all of the requests, however, each pi could barely support more than 2-3x dongles and would constantly need daily reboots.

- Present day. We got rid of all PI's and all iPhones. We no longer run our own proxy farm and have setup strategic deals with good 4G proxy providers. We use a custom web & iOS API back-end that I built. All requests are sent through it and we're scaling creation / setup / fulfillment to run around 1,300,000 Instagram accounts per month. Hoping to simultaneously control / run 10,000,000+ IG accounts at the same time in the next 3-6 months max.

We've wasted $400k+ USD trying to figure the above out ^ It's definitely nostalgic to hear people talking about using physical iPhone automation lol.
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So you started out with iPhones, then sniffed the requests from the App and replicated them using code?

This is quite interesting for me as I have come the other way around.
I started in 2013 with Instagram when certificate pinning was not really a thing and you could easily intercept network traffic.
I built an iOS based bot that would create and run accounts. I was a noob at that time still but it worked.

As things got more complicated, I hired more and more skilled people to keep it working.
Then last February we couldn't keep it up. Instagram added something that detected our operations, periodically logged-out all the accounts and eventually disabled them for use.
The only solution to this was to deploy an Android farm and I stopped development on the bot because I didn't see any future.

All in all I invested over $1M+ into development of that Instagram iOS requests bot.
If you still can pull it off to run a requests based bot then you must be geniuses.
All those requests that the App sends, it is insane to replicate and you never know what counts.
I don't really like the Android solution because the amount of devices limit the amount of accounts that can run.
 
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AllOutAnime said:
So you started out with iPhones, then sniffed the requests from the App and replicated them using code?

This is quite interesting for me as I have come the other way around.
I started in 2013 with Instagram when certificate pinning was not really a thing and you could easily intercept network traffic.
I built an iOS based bot that would create and run accounts. I was a noob at that time still but it worked.

As things got more complicated, I hired more and more skilled people to keep it working.
Then last February we couldn't keep it up. Instagram added something that detected our operations, periodically logged-out all the accounts and eventually disabled them for use.
The only solution to this was to deploy an Android farm and I stopped development on the bot because I didn't see any future.

All in all I invested over $1M+ into development of that Instagram iOS requests bot.
If you still can pull it off to run a requests based bot then you must be geniuses.
All those requests that the App sends, it is insane to replicate and you never know what counts.
I don't really like the Android solution because the amount of devices limit the amount of accounts that can run.
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Yeah we ran into a similar issue where IG wiped all of our accounts around last January. Was a very painful situation and we barely survived (near-bankruptcy).

I replicate every single request now, including logging_client_events etc.

& am forced to update the code every 2 weeks :(, it's a constant battle.

Our entire team is just me and my business partner. It's hard to find competent coders.
 
Interesting thread. I'll bookmark it.

And numbers here are impressive.

And they don't give up because of failure.

Never surrender!!!!!
 
ReverseEngineering said:
Which app do you mean exactly?

For example, TikTok even crawls a part of your file system to detect an emulator usage.




Something about your story seems to be wrong, since there is no ADB for iPhones. The "A" in "ADB" stands for "Android" btw.




I PM'ed you
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Could you also PM me or reach out on TG (@ripple102), new to BHW and have no idea how to PM, i'd like to talk about a project i'd like to build, you seem like the perfect fit.
 
AllOutAnime said:
Does anybody know if rootless jb is still detected by apps?
iphones can be automated with appium but you need macOS.
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ReverseEngineering said:
Please create a separate thread about your plans, since you keep talking about typical Android extensions.

This thread is dedicated to "iPhone farms", so please don't mess it up with off-topic Android content. Thank you! ;-)
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do you have TG
 
How to Set Up Proxy on iPhone?

If i root my phone and use Proxifier, tiktok detect me

If the phone connect to VPN and VPN Is direct connect tò the proxy, i got detect


Any suggestion?

What if i setup a Linux Ubuntu PC as server proxy with USB hub and dongle and connect the iPhone THROUGH cable?
With this setup how tò connect my phone tò the proxy without rooted iPhone ?

AllOutAnime said:
So you started out with iPhones, then sniffed the requests from the App and replicated them using code?

This is quite interesting for me as I have come the other way around.
I started in 2013 with Instagram when certificate pinning was not really a thing and you could easily intercept network traffic.
I built an iOS based bot that would create and run accounts. I was a noob at that time still but it worked.

As things got more complicated, I hired more and more skilled people to keep it working.
Then last February we couldn't keep it up. Instagram added something that detected our operations, periodically logged-out all the accounts and eventually disabled them for use.
The only solution to this was to deploy an Android farm and I stopped development on the bot because I didn't see any future.

All in all I invested over $1M+ into development of that Instagram iOS requests bot.
If you still can pull it off to run a requests based bot then you must be geniuses.
All those requests that the App sends, it is insane to replicate and you never know what counts.
I don't really like the Android solution because the amount of devices limit the amount of accounts that can run.
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I saw previus post that you have done this:

Setting up the proxy directly on phone itself from the router using cable that connects USB-C to Ethernet

route all traffic through the proxy using iptables on the device


But you have plans to use the Gateway to route through the proxies automatically so the Android is not bothered by it.
This will allow to proxy on non-rooted devices without the Apps knowing.

Any news ?
 
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vittorianicolosi1994 said:
I saw previus post that you have done this:

Setting up the proxy directly on phone itself from the router using cable that connects USB-C to Ethernet

route all traffic through the proxy using iptables on the device


But you have plans to use the Gateway to route through the proxies automatically so the Android is not bothered by it.
This will allow to proxy on non-rooted devices without the Apps knowing.

Any news ?
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Can you even use iOS to use a LAN cable for internet connection?
When you tried with proxifier, did you make sure that all protocols are properly proxied and dns server is correct?
 
AllOutAnime said:
Can you even use iOS to use a LAN cable for internet connection?
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I Want try with iPhone 8 and iOS 16, i but i have only iPhone 7
AllOutAnime said:
When you tried with proxifier, did you make sure that all protocols are properly proxied and dns server is correct?
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I want know how to disable jailbreak detection on tiktok before try proxifier,
I want try tò install old tiktok versione and try IPA patched

Do you know a way to install proxidise without jailbreak on iPhone ?
 
vittorianicolosi1994 said:
I want know how to disable jailbreak detection on tiktok before try proxifier,
I want try tò install old tiktok versione and try IPA patched
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The jailbreak detection will also be done on the TikTok servers, by analyzing the encrypted tokens and the traffic quality.

In other words, since you wrote at another thread that you failed with reverse engineering Snapchat already, you should better use one of the available TikTok bots. This will save you time (months probably) and money. ;-)
 
I have already automated these apps via real devices on iOS and my clients enjoy good results. I do not recommend using any emulation of any kind. It is very easily detectable, that goes for both iOS and Android.
 
Mafula said:
I have already automated these apps via real devices on iOS and my clients enjoy good results. I do not recommend using any emulation of any kind. It is very easily detectable, that goes for both iOS and Android.
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I am also in need of a phone farm and other bots could you please contact me, many thanks
 
Mafula said:
I have already automated these apps via real devices on iOS and my clients enjoy good results. I do not recommend using any emulation of any kind. It is very easily detectable, that goes for both iOS and Android.
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dm'ed you on TG!
 
GrProg said:
emulators wont work in my case unless there is way to bypass detection from the appi have tried in the past but didnt work.
I want to create a farm with real iphones and then automate some tasks inside them if thats even possible without getting detected
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Why not just go into automations feature? You can program them to do things at certain times or when they receive a particular stimuli…. In this case signals from the laptop. Say the automation was ,,,, or even better control them from your own personal phone. Write down all the routines you want those phones to do. Have all phones do A(action) when you send out a group text to them from the controller phone, have them all do B-Z(action), when they receive a group message from the controller phone. The message that’s the catalyst could correspond to the letters A,B,C,D,E -Z. You just have to message one letter to all the phones in a mass text and they all begin the routine you want. You can switch it up everyday by sending different letters…. The easiest way I can think to automate the process without knowing what your doing
 
Mafula said:
I have already automated these apps via real devices on iOS and my clients enjoy good results. I do not recommend using any emulation of any kind. It is very easily detectable, that goes for both iOS and Android.
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Interested in what you’ve built. Please contact me.
 
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