Instagram Client Management with bots?

Ludacash said:

I feel this is a question most of us have and cannot find the answer to, so I'll create a thread about it.

I'm trying to start an Instagram Agency, and everything I understand so far about instagram agencies leaves me to believe I should use some sort of automation.

With that being said I use Jarvee, and it seems like I'm not the only one having issues reposting content and it just seems risky now.

I want to manage clients Instagrams with or without bots (seems like everybody is no matter how bad it gets)

IS it possible use the bot to only follow/unfollow and like content while the client and/or I use the account to post content and make comments manually? Is this a safe thing to do?

What is a safe way to manage instagram accounts? I do NOT mind paying for safety as I'm nervous of getting a client's account banned. I don't mind safe settings or buying 4G proxies. I just need a basic structure and can figure the rest out..

Thank you so much for anybody with any information and taking the time to read this!

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MR.Spuf said:

Well, there was some sort of technique on the forum that I can't find it right now. First you tell your client to sign out, then you put the clients account on proxy in the bot, leave it for 1-2 days without doing any kind of automation, then start slowly doing the automation and ask the client to login via phone app but here's the catch that the IG client needs to be stopped completely before that in the app. Search within the forum and let us know if you find the solution.

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rootjazz said:

As you will be using real / actual accounts, that have been used probably for years, a lot of the problems spam accounts have, will not affect you, these accounts will already have high quality ratings assigned to them by ISG.

Reposting images isn't a problem per se, as long as you can modify them enough (and no, a simple md5 hash change is not enough). Run some filter routines on them, flip them, change the size, zoom in a bit, modify the hue / saturation etc etc. but if you are running client accounts and charging them for it, you might not want to just be reposting random images, but curating high quality images and just scheduling them

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aky004 said:

test yourself then offer your clients the secret you learned

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Ludacash said:

Ah I see thank you also for a very detailed response. I know I've seen you in the past from doing IG research!

This is good news to hear, and a bit of a relief. I've been searching for a residential IP provider that maybe won't rotate often or at least stays within a city just as an extra layer of security. But it seems like I'll be okay then, as long as the account is a real account.

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I only assume if I'm building a client's account from scratch then it's a different story.

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would you suggest I do these changes to the original content even if I post using legitimate scheduling software? Thanks again for your help!

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rootjazz said:

To an extant, you cannot load up 20 client accounts on a single IP (well you can but is not recommend. Although I have heard of people doing more who don't report issues, it still is not recommended)


If you are doing this, I would recommend to run it manually in your phone for a while at least to warm the account up. Get ISG marking you as real account as will be using the the phone like a real user as you are a real user. Or pay someone to do that for you, depending on what you are charging, how professional / long term you want to be. There is always a risk with a new account, bot created on proxies then loaded straight into bots (this risk can be reduced and with time the quality score of the account will go up, but will take longer than just using the account on a phone)


If you are reposting original content, you don't need to try to hide the forget you are stealing it from ISG and reposting it.

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Ludacash said:

IS it possible use the bot to only follow/unfollow and like content while the client and/or I use the account to post content and make comments manually? Is this a safe thing to do?

What is a safe way to manage instagram accounts? I do NOT mind paying for safety as I'm nervous of getting a client's account banned. I don't mind safe settings or buying 4G proxies. I just need a basic structure and can figure the rest out..

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rootjazz said:

To an extant, you cannot load up 20 client accounts on a single IP (well you can but is not recommend. Although I have heard of people doing more who don't report issues, it still is not recommended)


If you are doing this, I would recommend to run it manually in your phone for a while at least to warm the account up. Get ISG marking you as real account as will be using the the phone like a real user as you are a real user. Or pay someone to do that for you, depending on what you are charging, how professional / long term you want to be. There is always a risk with a new account, bot created on proxies then loaded straight into bots (this risk can be reduced and with time the quality score of the account will go up, but will take longer than just using the account on a phone)


If you are reposting original content, you don't need to try to hide the forget you are stealing it from ISG and reposting it.

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biffer123 said:

You will be fine, tons of people are doing this.

- Use 1 high quality mobile proxy per client account
- Bot safely
- Post either manually or through hootsuite/later, or maybe with Jarvee (can cause problems)

You won't have many issues (if any)

I just started an AMA thread about my Instagram agency so if you have any questions feel free to ask me there

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AlexHammer said:

We use 1 proxy per client. Our favourite bot is by far getinfame. Sad that I'm not allowed to post an affiliatelink... but it is by far better than jarvee (imo).
All the planning and posting is done by buffer.
Cheers.

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bmanfacts said:

You can do bot actions while you do the rest of the things you mention provided you aren't pushing the actions limit on the account.
Ie: doing too many follows/unfollows/likes and doing them too frequently.
What could happen is you or your client does something while the bot is doing these acts, and 2 actions get done at the very same time. It's not problematic per se because the account isn't a spam account. but that could introduce potential problems for your client if they ever receive a flag in the form of action blocks.

TLDR: you can do the actions, space them out throughout the day with safe limits.

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biffer123 said:

You will be fine, tons of people are doing this.

- Use 1 high quality mobile proxy per client account
- Bot safely
- Post either manually or through hootsuite/later, or maybe with Jarvee (can cause problems)

You won't have many issues (if any)

I just started an AMA thread about my Instagram agency so if you have any questions feel free to ask me there

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AlexHammer said:

We use 1 proxy per client. Our favourite bot is by far getinfame. Sad that I'm not allowed to post an affiliatelink... but it is by far better than jarvee (imo).
All the planning and posting is done by buffer.
Cheers.

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Ludacash said:

I feel this is a question most of us have and cannot find the answer to, so I'll create a thread about it.

I'm trying to start an Instagram Agency, and everything I understand so far about instagram agencies leaves me to believe I should use some sort of automation.

With that being said I use Jarvee, and it seems like I'm not the only one having issues reposting content and it just seems risky now.

I want to manage clients Instagrams with or without bots (seems like everybody is no matter how bad it gets)

IS it possible use the bot to only follow/unfollow and like content while the client and/or I use the account to post content and make comments manually? Is this a safe thing to do?

What is a safe way to manage instagram accounts? I do NOT mind paying for safety as I'm nervous of getting a client's account banned. I don't mind safe settings or buying 4G proxies. I just need a basic structure and can figure the rest out..

Thank you so much for anybody with any information and taking the time to read this!

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luc1fer said:

I manage a lot of clients with Jarvee so i will tell you honestly what i think about this. Try to focus on specific niche for example work with girls and models only first because they are easier to work with and they get better results (everyone follow back hot girls) and its easier to talk with such clients and they will not complain too much. Many other niches its hard to get targeted followers and to avoid trash accounts, somehow they always manage to follow you and comment some weird things on your client posts no matter what filters you put on your software to avoid them. Be ready to lose engagement if your client is already popular, and if starting from small numbers then it should grow. However followers you get with these methods are usually not interested in your content so don't expect great engagement. Results vary and are not stable 1 day you may get 70 new followers next day 15 its complicated due to many reasons ( sources, errors ) so be ready to answer many questions from clients. I don't do like actions as you will get like blocks 24h very fast on both devices phone + bot that you use, and you not want to like or comment some random posts with ur client account (in many cases you might comment or like some random p0rnography posts and clients can be very angry because of that). So, just stick with follow-unfollow and you should be ok. And one more thing because clients will most likely get follow blocks and wont be able to follow friends or people they want with their mobile phones since you doing follows with bot be ready to explain them why this happening, or tell them to send you username's of people they want to follow so you can follow them with bot. Maybe you can put sleep-mode on your bot and stop the tools for 6-7 hours while your client actually not sleep (as they will use phone and instagram over day) and they should be able to follow with phone aswell, but in this case you lose 6-7 hours of following with bot so expect much lower results (i didn't try this myself i follow 24h no pause). Also, you not need 4G proxies as you won't publish posts from client's accounts, leave that to client. Only if the client require that you upload posts too (if they not have time to do it or whatever is the reason) then get some good 4G proxy because i think it doesn't work with normal proxies anymore. Last thing i have to tell you is that people more and more recognize follow-unfollow as spammy method so first they not want to follow back easily, and second they will unfollow you too when they notice you unfollow them. Its not easy work if you want to do it all right but it can be very profitable. If have more questions let me know and i will try to help..

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sopaj96 said:

Wow good reply man!

Just curious as I've done the F/UF and my engagement rate is now dropping, Im still getting a fair amount of daily followers but as you said those are not all interested.
So what do you usually do to find more targeted people that engage. Like what's the next step?
S4S? Paid Ads?

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Ludacash said:

Ahh I see wow thank you so much you're a life saver seriously I'm so excited to get started. I just need to find quality proxies now



Holy shit thank you so much I'm at work right now so it's kinda hectic but I'm 100% going to be in there.

What timing man my dream is into break into digital marketing and I'm almost positive this is going to be my first big step. I'll be talking to you later!

I'm thinking I'm going to do the child parent method so I need to find quality proxies across the board. Have any recommendations? Maybe DM me lmao I'm sure someone will ask in the thread anyway lol



Thank you so much for the response I'm going to check that bot out and check out buffer. What kind of proxy do you use for the client? I'm just curious.


Wow that's a great detailed response exactly what I'm trying to figure out. And what a relief this news is.

im curious what kind of proxy would you recommend for this strategy? Thank you again for the help! Very useful

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luc1fer said:

I manage a lot of clients with Jarvee so i will tell you honestly what i think about this. Try to focus on specific niche for example work with girls and models only first because they are easier to work with and they get better results (everyone follow back hot girls) and its easier to talk with such clients and they will not complain too much. Many other niches its hard to get targeted followers and to avoid trash accounts, somehow they always manage to follow you and comment some weird things on your client posts no matter what filters you put on your software to avoid them. Be ready to lose engagement if your client is already popular, and if starting from small numbers then it should grow. However followers you get with these methods are usually not interested in your content so don't expect great engagement. Results vary and are not stable 1 day you may get 70 new followers next day 15 its complicated due to many reasons ( sources, errors ) so be ready to answer many questions from clients. I don't do like actions as you will get like blocks 24h very fast on both devices phone + bot that you use, and you not want to like or comment some random posts with ur client account (in many cases you might comment or like some random p0rnography posts and clients can be very angry because of that). So, just stick with follow-unfollow and you should be ok. And one more thing because clients will most likely get follow blocks and wont be able to follow friends or people they want with their mobile phones since you doing follows with bot be ready to explain them why this happening, or tell them to send you username's of people they want to follow so you can follow them with bot. Maybe you can put sleep-mode on your bot and stop the tools for 6-7 hours while your client actually not sleep (as they will use phone and instagram over day) and they should be able to follow with phone aswell, but in this case you lose 6-7 hours of following with bot so expect much lower results (i didn't try this myself i follow 24h no pause). Also, you not need 4G proxies as you won't publish posts from client's accounts, leave that to client. Only if the client require that you upload posts too (if they not have time to do it or whatever is the reason) then get some good 4G proxy because i think it doesn't work with normal proxies anymore. Last thing i have to tell you is that people more and more recognize follow-unfollow as spammy method so first they not want to follow back easily, and second they will unfollow you too when they notice you unfollow them. Its not easy work if you want to do it all right but it can be very profitable. If have more questions let me know and i will try to help..

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