Insane Google ranker

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Insidemann said:
Again in not listening.
Trying to sell x two of the toy gun instead. I guess having one in each hand could actually help you think it's working and you actually are a internet space cowboy.

Gsa, scrapebox and senuke are not click bots, even though they are allowed to operate, google disregards this traffic. To liken your creation to these types of program's suggests that you don't understand how Googles search technology works.

Search is machine id based. Network information (your router MAC address) is passed with unique device identifying information from lso cookie injection.

Your machine is given a unique identifier every time you search on google.. However its the same Id for your machine no matter how many times you change ip or proxy. See for yourself using 7-zip and look in your internet cache..you can see hidden files with your unique id.

You can change your underwear 20 times a day... But we still know it's you . ;) In fact doing this will show manipulation and could cause possible ranking issues.
Trust me.. You kids think you can game google?

Disable cookies on your browser and then run bot and watch your analytics... Interesting how analytics no longer shows your traffic... Hmmm I wonder why this is. lol it's because Google no longer can identify your machine, unless they use a hookie instead of a cookie.
If it was just ip or proxy based it would show... I guess you kids are new at this.

If you want to build something that works give me a pm. Your bot is very pretty by the way ..however people need results as you promise.
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From the beggining i post that this is not a debate post. We are talking about some specific tool and we ask for ideas and feedback.
As your own mention, Google receive information from cookies (thats why turning coockies off make Google to be blind), so if you can manipulate what information did youy pass in the cookies, you can make it unable to identify that is the same machine.

In fact, the browser read the cookies and send the information to the server (Google or any other server), except the IP.
So, an internal browser can send whatever information you want to the server and the server is unable to indetify that is the same browser that do a click a few minute ago with a different IP.

Google is not the Big Brother, its has no eyes watching you. It depends on the information that your browser sends and in the IP. If you can (as we do) control an internal browser and control de information that the cookies send, Google will be tricked.

Again, its not a debate thread, so please dont start a debate in this thread. You are free to think whatever you want, if you want to debate about this, do it in another thread please. Thanks.
 
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I'm not debating anything.... Isn't this the ideas and feedback you asked for?
Just providing you and the readers here with information.
You"re the one debating and trying to sell your product saying you know more than Google.

Just relaying to you the facts.. Want buyers to be armed with info so they can make a sound decision .

Ps your program doesn't change the search ID.. It changes proxy.
Search Id per machine will stay the same no matter how many underwear changes you make.

Proxy switch away with your lazer gun with flashing lights!
Space cowboys away!
 
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Insidemann said:
I'm not debating anything.... Isn't this the ideas and feedback you asked for?
Just providing you and the readers here with information.
You"re the one debating and trying to sell your product saying you know more than Google.

Just relaying to you the facts.. Want buyers to be armed with info so they can make a sound decision .

Ps your program doesn't change the search ID.. It changes proxy.
Search Id per machine will stay the same no matter how many underwear changes you make.

Proxy switch away with your lazer gun with flashing lights!
Space cowboys away!
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Your message was full of mistakes and you told us' kids that need to call you if we want to be able to make this work'.
Also now you said that our sofuwate dose not change the search ID and just change the proxy.
Thats not true.
We change many things (that we will not reveal here), not only the "ID", and the IP.
We will cut off this discussion and we will not reveal what we are doing in our internal browser, but make sure that we have total control on the cookies-information.

As we explain many times, if you control a browser you can control ANY information that Google (or any other server) will receive. And WE CONTROL our internal browser, because we code it :)

The ONLY thing that Google can know that we dont send is the IP, and we use proxies, all the other information are controlled by us.
We can tell Google that we are using any browser, any screen resolution, and ID, everything...

The *only* thing that you need to make sure to make this software help you in your rankings, is making a lot of clicks. Dont thing that a couple of hundreds will do the job, because sites in the first page are getting a lot of CTR. Keep that in mind, your CTR compared with sites in the first results page.
 
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It's a great idea. Who knows? Might become the next revolutionary tool in SEO.

(Oops, unintentional double post....Mods delete the other one pls)
 
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It's a great idea. Who knows? Might become the next revolutionary tool in SEO.
 
We are releasing a release candidate.
The BETA testing has being very succesfully.

Thanks to every one for participating in the BETA :)

Next weekend we expect to close the BETA and release very soon the first public version.
 
Sounds very interesting, pm us when ready... will it send clicks from area's like Canadian ip clicks for a .ca domain ?
 
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The ONLY thing that Google can know that we dont send is the IP, and we use proxies, all the other information are controlled by us.
We can tell Google that we are using any browser, any screen resolution, and ID, everything...

The *only* thing that you need to make sure to make this software help you in your rankings, is making a lot of clicks. Dont thing that a couple of hundreds will do the job, because sites in the first page are getting a lot of CTR. Keep that in mind, your CTR compared with sites in the first results page.
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For all those who wish to make sure your site does not drop please look into what we are saying.
check for yourself google "Ctr manipulation threshold patent "

Or paste the below into your browser.

patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=1&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PTXT&S1=8,005,716.PN.&OS=pn/8,005,716&RS=PN/8,005,716

Unlike the above quote... Google actually records a lot of information from you and your browsing history. Sending clicks without proper setup can harm your site. We are sharing this so you know all the facts.

I had hoped the people creating this software know this also ? However from the quote and information shared in this forum I think there may be a disregard for the facts . Getting a heavy proportion of the Ctr may place your site under penalty. Just so everyone here knows up front googles rules ... It's up to you if you choose to play with or against them... Space Cowboys away. I do like all the pretty text.

Again it's not me saying it.. The facts are all online if you wish to google . I have referenced above.
 
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Insidemann said:
Google actually records a lot of information from you and your browsing history.
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But you are missing the point: Google only can record the information that your webbrowser provide. Except the IP, there is not other way for Google to obtain information about you that the one that your browser sent. AND WE ARE USING OUR OWN INTERNAL BROWSER ;)

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Yes, giving a crazy amount of CTR could get you penalized, like making a crazy amount of backlinks, even .edu backlinks could get your site penalized, everything in massive amounts could harm your site. But thats not the case, with our software, we are not sending massive clicks at all.

But again, i dont want to start a discussion about it. Some people will believe that CTR is not the way the want to work, its okay. Other people will feel like they want to use CTR because some recent researches shows that CTR is the #1 factor for ranking (according to searchmetrics, per example).
Its like the backlinks, some people build automated backlinks and other people does not feel comfortable doing it.
There are several ways to get your site in a good ranking, use the one that make yourself feel comfortable, just understand that other people may have a different point of view.
 
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cosmotheory said:
stay time on site?
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Yes, it can navigate randomly to links in your site (not external links, only links poiting to your site) or to a list of links that you provide, and about bounce rate, you set the range of min and max time to stay on the site.
 
when you land on a webpage Google takes all the information it can and adds it to a database,but if there anything missing Google will delete anything in that database row ....

there no way you can make Google think you have had a real hit/traffic by just pinging any website.

it wouldn't make seance to Google if you do what your trying to do, telling the browser to turn off java script and cookies and anything, it's all collected in Google database on ping to website, if anything seems doggy that database row is deleted so meaning ping mean nothing.

in fact you might even end up nicked from Google police, they thinking you trying to still fake impressions of traffic.

i said it before there was a bot that done what your trying to do and when Google cached on, the company/persons/programmers all got nicked and i am sure they wheres part of ubot(programmers).

Google got that problem solved and awaiting a fool to try.....

think what your trying to do, it be end of any click website millions and billions of pounds all because of you.
 
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I have to agree. The idea is nice but you have to fake a lot more then just the traffic. Beginning with screenresolution, mac adress, hell they even have a 98% unique identifier for every computer world wide when you are just browsing and that was only from a test at an university...

They have Adsense and Adwords remember, and they are very good at identifying real visitors...If your bot can klick adwords/adsense and it gets counted, then perhaps you have a chance. ;)
 
redarrow said:
when you land on a webpage Google takes all the information it can and adds it to a database,but if there anything missing Google will delete anything in that database row ....

there no way you can make Google think you have had a real hit/traffic by just pinging any website.

it wouldn't make seance to Google if you do what your trying to do, telling the browser to turn off java script and cookies and anything, it's all collected in Google database on ping to website, if anything seems doggy that database row is deleted so meaning ping mean nothing.

in fact you might even end up nicked from Google police, they thinking you trying to still fake impressions of traffic.

i said it before there was a bot that done what your trying to do and when Google cached on, the company/persons/programmers all got nicked and i am sure they wheres part of ubot(programmers).

Google got that problem solved and awaiting a fool to try.....

think what your trying to do, it be end of any click website millions and billions of pounds all because of you.
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We are not just pingin the website.
There is no row deletion at all, we test this tool in several sites and check them in Google Webmaster Tools and Google register the clicks as real CTR. That is a fact.

But we will stop here this discussion and please stop this kind of discussion. We dont want our thread to be about controversial points of view about the Google Algorithm. Please discuss it in another thread.

Thanks
 
In our tests, we had carefully reviewed Google Webmasters Tools to know how does Google clasify the clicks, and in our experience Google indetify them as real CTR.
This is a fact.

If any software in the past try to do this and fails, that does not mean that the idea don't work... maybe that mean that the software was not well coded.
 
this wont work because you will increase ctr of keyword which they already know the average. i have been working on it 5 years ago. WASTE OF TIME.
 
cosmotheory said:
this wont work because you will increase ctr of keyword which they already know the average. i have been working on it 5 years ago. WASTE OF TIME.
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haters gonna hate.
Never give up mate and keep me updated aswell.I will buy or download your programm if its free.Thank you!
 
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