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Indexification DEAD After Penguin 2.0?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ejbnas, Jun 20, 2013.

  1. ejbnas

    ejbnas Newbie

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    I'm almost 2 weeks in with indexification.

    Over 100k links with about 99% crawl rate in my dashboard.

    BUT, I have less than 3-5% indexing rate so far.

    My links are primarily contextual links like articles, wikis, social network articles.

    Are you guys getting similar results or is it just me? What are your results currently after Penguin 2.0 with indexification in terms of indexing rate?
     
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    Getting similar results, haven't actually tested the index % vs crawl % but it's really low. Using with GSA ofc.
     
  3. seoactive

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    How does indexification compare to lindexed? Is that any better?
     
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    I am having problems getting my high quality web 2.0s indexed. It is strange.
     
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    Pretty much the same for me.

    You need to build backlinks, some Web 2.0's will get indexed without backlinks like wordpress but most require backlinks.
     
  7. ejbnas

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    It's strange because I read some posts in April 2013 and people are saying they have high indexing rate.

    I'm wondering if it's because Google caught on to the network of sites that Indexification uses to index the links and de-indexed them like Build My Rank and that's why indexing rate is so low now?
     
  8. futurestunner

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    No that's not true.
    these days there's some issue for even high quality pages get indexed.
    Sometimes my crap links get indexed easily but not the web 2.0's


     
  9. GiorgioB

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    Point lots of social bookmarks, wikis and blog comments to those web 2.0s, that's what I do and it works fine up to now. All indexed, and even gain some nice PA/DA.
     
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    Yeah. Just purchase several social bookmarking services on BHW and bookmark the links. Easy.
     
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    I would recommend Nuclear Indexer by Kok -- this seems to work much better. Also links seem to count if crawled as well. But do your own testing.
     
  12. ejbnas

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    What's your indexing rate with NI by Kok? I'm mainly looking to index my contextual links like Articles, Wikis, Social Network Articles, Web 2.0s. What's your experience with indexing rate for these on NI?
     
  13. seoactive

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    I used to use that service but I find it overpriced. Its like $99 per month! There are better service out there if we are talking about that price range.
     
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    Getting great results with indexification. Around 70% success.
    However the stuff not being indexed is my low quality stuff. It's almost an exact split. High quality (more or less unique - high word count - on agood sites) is being indexed. Poorer quality stuff (quick fix links with copied content - low word count - poor sites - no real control of it in terms of images, tags, whatever) is not being indexed.

    I suspect (though I have no proof) that it is a function of the target site that is preventing index - not a function of the indexing process itself

    Google is just not indexing quite so much crap no matter how hard you push it (though it still indexes plenty if you look close enough).
    Overall though my indexification rate is excellent - no concerns - decent service.

    Scritty
     
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    It's hit and miss for me, sometimes takes ages for a web2.0 to be indexed even when bookmarking.
     
  16. dennica

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    web2s, articles, wikis and bookmarks takes a lot of time getting indexed..
    even if you build tons of backlinks on them.. they are crawled but Google mostly do not index them...
    this is the reason why i used them as tier2s and tier3s...

    That only means that Google dont like them anymore just like the profile links..

    Before, with profile links, you can rank any websites you like..
    Thats because Google index them before..

    what i can suggest is do guest posting...
    get hp, sidebar and footer links...
     
  17. rakerkid

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    Its time to move to others indexing service. indexification seems dead for me too.
     
  18. mnhweb

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    I have the same problems...
     
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    OP, no, my service isn't dead at all! Actually it is doing pretty fine and working normally at around the same level when it was started!

    As I always say to my customers when asked about indexing rate that is something that pretty much depends on the quality of backlinks you submit - content uniqueness, domain authority, domain penalties, OBL count, server speed, server reliability and etc and etc.. We all know there are hundred factors that G considers when deciding should it index a page a or not.

    You need to realize that Penguin 2.0 is an update towards the webpages, not the indexing process itself. Since your backlinks are webpages, Penguin 2.0 affects your backlinks quality factors and You need to look at raising up the quality of your backlinks and adopt to the new changes the same way people are trying to higher the quality of their sites to meet the new requirements.


    I am constantly monitoring the indexing rate since the beginning of the service, by picking out random links thourhgout the whole system and I can say indexing rate now is doing on average in the same intervals as it was doing anytime before!

    Yes, since Peng 2.0, some types of links are slower and harder to get indexed, but others are now more easily accomplishing that.

    I pretty good understand that from the huge number of customers I have, there will be and unhappy and ones for which my service won't work. It is like that with any business

    Also it is important to note that crawling is pretty important as well, as it is known that it still helps for ranking your sites, because Google takes in consideration the crawled backlinks as well, not just the Indexed!

    My network is totally undetectable! OK, i am going to reveal something about my network, even though i know my competitors are reading this. I say it is undetectable, because it is not a network at all in the regular meanings of "network". It is like that because it doesn't stay same. Regularly new sites are put in it and others removed. So, the network is on constant change and basically every few months the "network" is totally different.

    When things are done right, they work.

    To all my other customers: Be assured I am constantly monitoring my service and doing improvements to provide You better quality for the price you pay!

    If any of you guys have any more questions, let me know and I will be glad to answer them!
     
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    Well, Basically It is not Indexification Problem, I am using few services to give indexing ratios, and We do build 1000's Links Per day and use on 2 Indexing Services, indexification is 1st We use. and We have run few tests to check what happenning. Google Changed many Things. So it is better with indexification(I am not affilated with It at anyway but I and my teams use these and other Indexing Paid Services to help Our Customers)
    We do used 2 Copies of Pure Unqiue Content Copyscaped Passed, and Post them on Web 2.0 Top 100 (including Some other Languages Web 2.0.) and Try to get 1 set of Links index with 1 Service. and Almost both were same results) from 107 Web2 .0 links, only 37 were indexed with help of indexification and 29 were indexed with other. Now We do noticed that SOme other language Web 2.0 were also got indexed. (live journal like always not indexed) and We are now testing it on Wikis as 2nd Tier Links and Other Type of Links..
    We even Test 1 on Sape and Result was Strange from 50 Sape Links 39 are indexed in 11 days with 2 times indexing Push and 2nd Tier too.
    SO Conclusion is Indexification is not problem it is G-Update. and as Far everyone Know in August Big G Update coming So see what it brings..
     
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