I'm concerned about WordPress users

Tipblog said:

i did not understand what you say but i use wordpress for everything

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Time to start understanding and improve reading comprehension cause both of those pay off daily and it's a gift that keeps on giving. It's better than money. You can make yourself happy with it as it makes you grow.

If you can't understand something, use some tools that translate / explain stuff and you'll get it one moment. It's some hard effort in the beginning. but great things come with effort. I translate all the time using bookmarklets cause there's too much stuff in English that you just can't know if you don't study.

UrbanSnake said:

It is actually a good opportunity...learn programming and start building proxies for WP newbies

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I would say there are much better frameworks if you want to learn programming. WP DX honestly isn’t that great. You will constantly be “hacking” to add features, or use their hooks and callbacks instead of having your own routing, db and controller logic. WP is ok for a blog, but not the best for learning.

reaaski said:

Time to start understanding and improve reading comprehension cause both of those pay off daily and it's a gift that keeps on giving. It's better than money. You can make yourself happy with it as it makes you grow.

If you can't understand something, use some tools that translate / explain stuff and you'll get it one moment. It's some hard effort in the beginning. but great things come with effort. I translate all the time using bookmarklets cause there's too much stuff in English that you just can't know if you don't study.

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is there any wordpress plugin for that?

Gogol said:

I would say there are much better frameworks if you want to learn programming. WP DX honestly isn’t that great. You will constantly be “hacking” to add features, or use their hooks and callbacks instead of having your own routing, db and controller logic. WP is ok for a blog, but not the best for learning.

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You can do what I said somewhere else on this forum yesterday.
Basically use only minimal WordPress code and find some workaround to not use their stuff. Pretty crazy but possible.

- Use some other code that can be quickly turned into a plugin. You want to find things that are very easy to do with UI and have few settings. With many settings, you'll need a coder to do those settings for you in wordpress. You'll need to review their code. That will require a lot of wordpress specific assertions. You need something that requires very little UI work. That way you can get to 300+ plugins quickly and even that would make money on trash marketplaces like seoclerks or envato. But it takes research and opportunity analysis.
- Reselling plugins - that's a crazy thing, isn't it. One dude does that and he does that and then he does that once again. Very easy business, but you need to find an audience first. Can easily die though.
- Rewriting plugins and reselling them by being more sneaky. Something like turning code into different code, but this approach would require you to change all variable names, twist architecture and stuff like that. Mundane job and probably soul killing. But that's what I found about doing CMS and framework / high level based work - it kills the art of engineering.

WordPress is an audience for your programs. You can connect API to wordpress via their plugins and get extra customers.

Security is definitely the biggest downside of using WordPress if you’re a non-programmer.

Personally I think Automatic deliberately never introduced any robust security solutions for how their theme and plugin system works for their open source CMS. Because then why the hell would anyone pay WordPress(.)com for their managed hosting services?

As good as WP is, I think Drupal is actually better if you’re a non-coder and need a secure CMS. Drupal is also backed and owned by a pretty big company too. They’re not as big as Automatic but do seem far more innovative than them and less profit-drive too.

Not that i’m taking anything away from WordPress core in itself. But to use it’s features fully and most extensively, you need to be pretty damn good at php based tech.

But for any non-coders, Drupal, despite initially having a slightly steeper learning curb, is both more secure than WP and more stable than it’s kitchen-sink approach to plugin use and compatibilites too IMHO

umbreno said:

Security is definitely the biggest downside of using WordPress if you’re a non-programmer.

Personally I think Automatic deliberately never introduced any robust security solutions for how their theme and plugin system works for theor open source CMS. Because then why the hell would anyone pay WordPress(.)com for their managed hostong services?

As good as WP is, I think Drupal is actually better if you’re a non-coder and need a secure CMS. Drupal is also backed and owned by a massive company. They’re not as big as Automatic but do seem far more innovative than them.

Not that i’m taking anything away from WordPress, but to use it’s features fully and most extensively, you need to be pretty damn good at php based tech, wheras Drupal, despite initially having a slightly steeper learning curb, is a more secure and stable system none-coders IMHO

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I can tell you that I used WordPress only due to habits and not intellectually valid reasons. Most people pick it up from their environment, not by their self-analysis and understanding what they need. It's a good thing for beginners who want to understand what content management is about, but then they should learn some more stuff. What stuff? Probably plenty cause life is fcking boring if you only have few skills.

That's of course based on an assumption that I have that we don't work in B2B where we sell WP sites.

umbreno said:

Not that i’m taking anything away from WordPress, but to use it’s features fully and most extensively, you need to be pretty damn good at php based tech, wheras Drupal, despite initially having a slightly steeper learning curb, is a more secure and stable system for none-coders IMHO

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I think to use WordPress, you need to be an object oriented programming enthusiast which... isn't enough on its own. If you overuse object oriented programming concepts, you're fcked. And WordPress devs love to do that.

I got some templates for WordPress (over 100) and it was like reading hieroglyphs. It wasn't obfuscated or anything. It was just so intertwined with UI and their APIs, if you wanted to turn it into something, you would spend 2 light years.

The problem with this stuff is that it doesn't make sense if you aren't insightful in coding approach, you're gonna create for Automattic which is a business trap.

It's probably possible to create a template that uses few hooks and all that junk they give you, just for the sake of making money. Nice passive side income - that's what it could be.

I'm not gonna claim there's no business opportunity in this. You just don't want to create for WordPress / Automattic but connect your solutions to their ecosystem.

Hello, I'm looking
How to deal with a hacked WordPress site?
If anyone knows how to solve it, please DM me, thank you

They made for self hosting blogging system for end user , no skills or programming needs

If only people who know programming could create websites, 30% of websites would disappear today.no one cares whether you know coding or not. In the end making money is what matters.

WordPress allows anyone even those not tech savvy, to create an online presence. That's what should be appreciated.
And those hacking bullishit won't stop users using WordPress .

1959885 said:

There are some guys in Shopify earning 7 figures without knowing how to create a woocommerce store

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Who?

reaaski said:

I suppose that WordPress users use it because they can't write a for loop and understand what a function is.

Is it wrong or not?

Otherwise, if you use WordPress and you can create a program that makes sense, why do you use it?

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Web devs that use wordpress generally do not learn PHP. Even after I learned PHP, I moved on to other things. Coincidentally, it's my least favorite language.

But most wordpress devs have no idea about loop iterations or even know what functions are.

reaaski said:

Otherwise, if you use WordPress and you can create a program that makes sense, why do you use it?

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Generally speaking, it would be a waste of time to create your own CMS when Wordpress is not only free but easily customizable.

If they are working in Java/C# daily (program/software devs), they're most likely not Wordpress developers.

PHPInjected said:

But most wordpress devs have no idea about loop iterations or even know what functions are.

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So how they're devs? I think it's a webmaster, not a dev. Isn't it so.

WordPress makes programming life easier, faster, and more profitable.

WordPress is best for all types of website user. It is easy and simple to use.