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IG botting: fresh experience to judge

Discussion in 'Instagram' started by Likepack, Dec 7, 2015.

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  1. Likepack

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    Hey all! Being full aware of potential tensiousness to ‘newbie's coming up with more than 2 words at once I'll still try to post smth on IG botting once again - from another angle. It is a newbie-to-newbie approach I was desperatew for when I strated to investigate the case myself. I will update the post latter if it takes your fancy.
    Local authorities: Give me a chance will you? I am putting out my thoughts on the matter and welcome questions and your ideas. So.

    I'm sure most of you have been bugged at least once or twice by messages like "Awesome_username" or "There's a great profile you may wanna follow - _username". I'm talking about Instagram, because IG is pretty much the sweetest spot for botting and I've therefore been hard on it for some time. So, you may wanna ask - is there a way I can keep bots out of my precious personal online space? My answer would be - sorry, no. You cant.

    Have you ever used hashtags, even once? This basic thing imminently puts you on spam lists. The easiest way ‘marketers' target their audience is by relevant hashtags. If you add a ‘cabernet' hashtag to you post - most likely you drink wine and will be interested in that local shop's offer they're promoting (in spammer's logic). Speaking of local shops - geotagging is not just a thing you use to keep your iPhone gallery organized, it's also a spammers' tool. It doesn't necessarily have to be a local venue that targets your account with spam just because you posted from a certain area - the spammer can actually be a thousand of miles away. But if they defined your town as they target area - you will be spammed.

    Even such an innocent thing as putting your name into your IG account will play against you. Do you have more than 10 pictures in your gallery? You're on. There are tools that allow spammers to filter out other bots by criteria like the number of uploaded pictures or user activity. This way they make sure bots are targeting real people. Another thing that puts you in spammers' crosshairs is people and accounts you follow on IG. If you're subscribed to TechCrunch official page you must be interested in high-tech and computers. So don't be surprised if (rather when) yet another hardware or IT startup targets you with their latest ‘amazing' offer.

    More to follow (hopefully).. Here goes:

    So it is up to Instagram to look out for its users and they're doing all they can to stop spammers, right? Yes and no.


    It's really a game of cat and mouse. All Instagram can do is constantly change it's API to make life harder for bot operators. But this imminently affects honest API users - which is any app that features IG integration. So Instagram has a system of red flags that allows it to detect suspicious activity and ban face accounts. The problem is - these red flags aren't really a secret - which allows spammers bypass them.


    Spammers avoid using wi-fi connection to create and manage bots. If a new account logs in via wi-fi, IG remembers it and it will be very suspicious if the account logs in using a different IP. So suspicious that it would most likely reset the password - and the spammer will have to re-activate the account via email. If such activity repeats regularly IG bans the de-activates the account.

    To avoid the ban spammers keep the bot account low for a while - managing it via 3G or LTE, adding as much information as possible and making at least 5 posts under this account to make IG think that this is a real person. In a while (a few weeks to a month) IG lowers its guard and that's when spammers begin their dirty work, most of which is done automatically.



     
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  2. GreyHatNewb

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    Being human will play against you if you're on IG, thats what all the bots are after.

    Maybe one day, when the bots makes up 20% - 50% of the IG pool, then we can entertain ourselves with bot wars lol
     
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    At this point in time while nobody will reveal it to be the case, I suspect the pool of members on every major social network easily matches the figures you provided already. I all but guarantee there are more bots on EVERY social network then there are real people.
     
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    IDK, but you may actually be right, or close. Its kinda hard to imagine 200million bots on IG, I would probably guess more like 5-10 million, maybe 20M at absolute max.
     
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    For the love of god, please stop using that font color.
    That's two threads you just opened with that font color, just keep it basic please.
     
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    All right, all right) :eek: I'm new here.. Thanks)
     
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    Guys, let me admire the situation for a bit)) On the front (white) side of the smm planet everybody is increasingly cheerful about all the 'socializing' happening in the web, putting everybody closer and making the world smaller and better bla-bla-bla.. And here the sage real-side, the people who knows a bit, discuss if there is actually enough humans out there to outmass the bots..) That's funny indeed..)
     
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    What do you suggest for an honest soul to do than if acting human will make you vulnerable to spammers? Do you maybe see a trend in IG behavioral patterns changing? As for now the best strategy to keep a bot safe and sound is to mimic a person, right? Do you think that'll change soon? All the bots will be vulnerabale in that case.

    Guys, do you know if bots are good with avoidng its own kind? I mean is it common for a bot to start spamming on another one? Or there are ways around it?