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If you're a FREELANCER or HIRING one...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by jayjaymoney, Jun 9, 2012.

  1. jayjaymoney

    jayjaymoney Junior Member

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    How many times have you seen this type of post or something like it?

    "Need a good AND cheap designer/developer, AND fast!!!"



    • If you're a good designer/developer, you'll probably be raising your eyebrows or even laugh at this ad.
    • If you're a client and post this type of ad, don't expect any pms, or if you do get pms, be prepared to sift through unrealistic promises made by mediocre designers/developers who can't deliver.

    If you've been a designer/developer for a while, you probably know the fast-good-cheap pricing. Realistically, these three things can't be combined in a project. The idea for this pricing is that clients should only be able to choose 2 out of the 3 and base the pricing of the project on that. If you don't, your work and income could suffer.

    Having been on both sides of the fence, I found this method to be fair for the freelancer and the client. Below are some explanations of how much you should charge as a designer and what you should expect if you are hiring.


    1. Good + Cheap = Slow
      If a client want's a good, cheap piece of work then they will have to be patient to get it as they are getting a discounted price. Designers/Developers have other projects to work on from higher paying clients so they get more priority.

    2. Good + Fast = Expensive
      If a client wants good, fast work, then of course they should be charged premium. Designers/Developers have to postpone every other job they have, cancel appointments/meetings and stay up 24+ hours to get their job done.

    3. Fast + Cheap = Inferior
      If a client wants to have a fast and cheap job, they should expect the result to be mediocre or inferior. Designers/Developers don't have the time to make the job as good as it could be plus on top of that, they would hardly get any return on the product/service.


     
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  2. Azraeil

    Azraeil Junior Member

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    Good post, the so called "slave-marketers" should read this and think twice before they look for freelancers here. If they do not agree to this they should head to dp or warrior forums.
     
  3. peerless2acme

    peerless2acme BANNED BANNED

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    An informative post but above all I liked your username " Jay jay money " :D
     
  4. busaboss

    busaboss Power Member

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    Yeah, a lot of people are like this especially on freelance sites.. They offer $1-$2 for a 500 word article? It is very low. They should be fair.
     
  5. NeoPat

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    Sticky this!!

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  6. xxtoni

    xxtoni Junior Member

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    Yup, you can always follow the rule:

    "If you don't know what's good, you know what's expensive"
     
  7. hassan_isabad_subar

    hassan_isabad_subar Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Thanks, whenever I see a thread started by someone looking for fast+cheap websites I want to smash my head in. I'm glad I'm not the only one annoyed.
     
  8. Zapdos

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    This is why I don't even look in the freelancer section. Everyone says "easy job!" or "I want an [apple] website copy for $20!" yet have no idea of the work involved and cannot spare more than they spend on 2 dine-out meals.

    Definitely worthy of a sticky.
     
  9. blackhit

    blackhit Super Moderator Staff Member Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Moved to the Lounge...
     
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  10. jayjaymoney

    jayjaymoney Junior Member

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    Thanks blackhit! Wasn't sure where's appropriate.

    And thank you all for your input. And yes, many clients just have high expectations yet they pay very little. They don't realize they're not attracting the best designers/coders when they advertise fast, good, cheap!