If You Can't Make Money With This Method, Quit IM Altogether...

Why am I here? Im here to make money, not make friends, thats why we are all here, to make money online. If the people that share their "NOOB PROOF $500 A DAY METHOD" are REALLY making $500 a day, or even $100-$200 a day, would not want to share their secrets FREE on here to everyone. Why? Saturation. Pretty much every method should fear saturation. You get too much other competition, it ruins the method. Hence why a lot of the stuff shared is users saying "I no longer do this method anymore since I'm on to bigger and better things" which means it either barely works anymore, or is saturated to heck... so now it feels like they are contributing valuable information, but in reality they are just sharing some crap method they know barely works anymore, just so they get reputation on the forum. Think what you want, but it's the truth.

Now, there ARE some users who do share some good information / ideas on here, but it is few and far between anymore. Examples are this person who posted this. It is a complete nonsense method cause there is no way to just "buy" real people to like a page. I challenge you to go to fiverr or wherever, buy likes, and see if you make any clicks / sales. People don't click on crap through social media. I've bought twitter advertising before promising to share with 500k + followers... nobody is gonna click on links through there, its a waste of time and money. Best of luck to any of you who believe in this method, and make a dime.

As for the posts on here, these people need to be realistic in their topic titles. $500 a day posts more likely generate about $50 to $100 per week if one is lucky.

Do you really think people on the warrior forum that are selling these ebooks that promise all this money are REALLY making as much as they claim? It's pure common sense. If a guy makes an ebook saying you can make $100-200 per day with no website, and he is selling the ebook for a SPECIAL PRICE OF ONLY $9, do you honestly think he's making $100-200 per day with his "method" ? If he was there would be no reason for him to sell a stupid $9 ebook to saturate his method. He doesn't care about the well being of others, he wants to make money off of his ebook, plain and simple!

Point being, unless you are in a joint venture with someone else, individual people are on these types of forums to make money online, plain and simple. And when money is involved, it's let the best man win.

This is absolute and utter dog poop.

This is 100% scamming/fraud, nothing more. This kind of stuff would get you in the shitlist.

This is absolutely no different than creating a service thread saying you're a designer, taking a deposit, then running.

The only thing that differs is that this method gives you a bit of deniability and makes you seem legit, but this is out and out scamming.

You're taking money for a service that you never provide. You take money for real traffic and you then run a bot with proxies. Nice.

So some marketer, some guy on bhw probably thinks he's buying some legit traffic and he sets up some landing pages to run some offers and he just loses all his $$. What a scumbag you are.

You're another person I'm adding to my "NEVER EVER DO BUSINESS. NEVER BUY FROM AND NEVER JV WITH".

If you ever end up on the shitlist I'm going to personally refer the mods to this thread where you're recommending noobs scam other marketers. Complete and utter scum.


Actually the great thing about this thread is you pretty much have a list of all the scumbags to avoid JV's/bsts from. Just check this thread for people interested in trying this method and you know all they're interested in doing is making a profit at the expense of others. Good job. Lots of names added to my avoid list.

scooby2830 said:

Why am I here? Im here to make money, not make friends, thats why we are all here, to make money online. If the people that share their "NOOB PROOF $500 A DAY METHOD" are REALLY making $500 a day, or even $100-$200 a day, would not want to share their secrets FREE on here to everyone. Why? Saturation. Pretty much every method should fear saturation. You get too much other competition, it ruins the method. Hence why a lot of the stuff shared is users saying "I no longer do this method anymore since I'm on to bigger and better things" which means it either barely works anymore, or is saturated to heck... so now it feels like they are contributing valuable information, but in reality they are just sharing some crap method they know barely works anymore, just so they get reputation on the forum. Think what you want, but it's the truth.

Now, there ARE some users who do share some good information / ideas on here, but it is few and far between anymore. Examples are this person who posted this. It is a complete nonsense method cause there is no way to just "buy" real people to like a page. I challenge you to go to fiverr or wherever, buy likes, and see if you make any clicks / sales. People don't click on crap through social media. I've bought twitter advertising before promising to share with 500k + followers... nobody is gonna click on links through there, its a waste of time and money. Best of luck to any of you who believe in this method, and make a dime.

As for the posts on here, these people need to be realistic in their topic titles. $500 a day posts more likely generate about $50 to $100 per week if one is lucky.

Do you really think people on the warrior forum that are selling these ebooks that promise all this money are REALLY making as much as they claim? It's pure common sense. If a guy makes an ebook saying you can make $100-200 per day with no website, and he is selling the ebook for a SPECIAL PRICE OF ONLY $9, do you honestly think he's making $100-200 per day with his "method" ? If he was there would be no reason for him to sell a stupid $9 ebook to saturate his method. He doesn't care about the well being of others, he wants to make money off of his ebook, plain and simple!

Point being, unless you are in a joint venture with someone else, individual people are on these types of forums to make money online, plain and simple. And when money is involved, it's let the best man win.

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This is just negative bullshit. The amount of people on this forum that have started from nothing and from the methods here they've built up an empire making $1000's a day is unbelievable.

Just because you've tried a few methods and failed doesn't mean they don't work. It just means you're not good enough to make them work because you're either copying them verbatim or you're not trying enough twists. There's money everywhere and the vast majority of stuff works when you twist it and apply your own knowledge/experience. The methods on the forum aren't meant to spoon-feed you with step by step instructions. There is pretty much nothing that makes money with step by step instructions out there. Most stuff requires skill/experience. The moment I find easy step by step stuff I'll give it to family/friends to make money, but anything I give them so far is just too complicated for them.

You're one of the majority of people who will I'm afraid never make any significant money online. You're too negative and with an attitude like "I'm not here to make friends" you won't get anywhere. Business is all about friends. Without friends you're NOTHING. Absolutely nothing. There are no businesses where you can survive on your own. You need customers, clients, suppliers, distributors, partners and just generally relationships with other people/businesses to thrive.


You're also verging into straw-man territory with the warrior forum bullshit. What does a bunch of people on another forum selling junk have to do with bhw members sharing information for free?

Hmmm both positive and negative reviews on this method....................

As with anything, it requires promotion. That is the key to any money making model, legal, ethical, or otherwise. Most people these days are so psyched on the thoughts of "easy money" or screwing for money, that they fail to see it is all about numbers and leads. While it is a good and doable method, the same effort could land a person genuine leads as well.

You can think what you want but I make $150 a day online and it was NOTHING I got from this or any other forum for that matter. Am I going to share? Hell no. Call me stingy, but why would I want to do that so my methods can get saturated and I have bigger competition? You think Walmart and Target sit on forums and share ways to make more money?! Same situation here. Mr. $100,000 per month with clickbank guy is NEVER going to show you his methods and secrets. They may tell you to really basic crap like "make a website and LP and get traffic to it." Yet essentials are never given like HOW and where to get traffic, on most of these posts, not all. Some like I said are somewhat useful, but if you think everyone is on here to make friends you are totally wrong. Its the internet, and it's money... people are greed. We are all competing with each other for that keyword, or rank in google, or youtube views, or whatever it may be.

And some of you seem to be backing up the OP. this method he gave is pretty much stealing people's money. These are your "FRIENDS" on here that you speak of, hopefully one of them is not the OP of this thread .

I work for myself. I could care less if you now know not to enter a joint venture with me, I wouldn't trust a soul on this website, or any website for that matter. People need to be careful.

yes guys this may be a rip off but this is blackhatworld and we know what blackhat stuff is

only do this if you want to be scum of the earth. Worst advice ever.

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Great method OP thanks for the post.

There are many different methods to make money online, you just have to actually apply the method....

To all the people who write the hate comment.
If you don't like it, the why reply.
Why keep bumping the thread and spreading the hate?

To BlueTurtle, ever since you came back after over 3 months of inactivity,
I can't recognize you anymore. You are so full of hate and stress.

Not that same old wise BlueTurtle that give out great advice.
I know for a fact that the old BlueTurtle don't argue over petty shit like the new one.
Is your account hacked or something?

scooby2830 said:

You can think what you want but I make $150 a day online and it was NOTHING I got from this or any other forum for that matter. Am I going to share? Hell no. Call me stingy, but why would I want to do that so my methods can get saturated and I have bigger competition? You think Walmart and Target sit on forums and share ways to make more money?! Same situation here. Mr. $100,000 per month with clickbank guy is NEVER going to show you his methods and secrets. They may tell you to really basic crap like "make a website and LP and get traffic to it." Yet essentials are never given like HOW and where to get traffic, on most of these posts, not all. Some like I said are somewhat useful, but if you think everyone is on here to make friends you are totally wrong. Its the internet, and it's money... people are greed. We are all competing with each other for that keyword, or rank in google, or youtube views, or whatever it may be.

And some of you seem to be backing up the OP. this method he gave is pretty much stealing people's money. These are your "FRIENDS" on here that you speak of, hopefully one of them is not the OP of this thread .

I work for myself. I could care less if you now know not to enter a joint venture with me, I wouldn't trust a soul on this website, or any website for that matter. People need to be careful.

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I don't think you've actually ever read anything on bhw. You say people only say basic shit like "build a web site and a LP"?

Here's one that'll make a lot more than your $150/day

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/offline-marketing/467598-killed-7500-3-days-exact-method-z-so-simple-duplicate.html

Here's another

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/making-money/487762-if-you-have-1-000-2-000-here-how-turn-into-40-000-a.html

In this one wasted lays out exactly what he does. He tells you the traffic source, he shows you his stats, he even tells you the site he advertised on and the type of product he created. If you can't take that information and start your own media buying business then you're not going to make it in business.


How about this one here:-

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/489724-my-post-penguin-search-engine-optimization-blueprint-tools-how-i-get-my-sites-top-10-google.html


This is a bloody spoon-feeding. But yeah "build a site and a LP" is all you'll find on bhw

Yet another step by step method here:

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/torrents/386347-how-i-made-90-3-days-torrents-continued-updated-thread-any-questions-ask.html

That one won't make big bucks taken verbatim but this is BUSINESS. Anyone who's just copying methods without any changes doesn't deserve to make money. It's not hard to see dozens of twists and get dozens of ideas from these methods. You can combine them, add to them, change the offers, the way they're promoted, scale them, automate them.. There's so many options.


Here's another from Leith

http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/making-money/411965-method-made-me-nearly-1000-5-days-100-tested-proven-no-more-excuses.html

Stuff like that just won't get saturated. People are too lazy and again there's just so many ways to twist this.


There's just SO SO SO SO MUCH on bhw. If you work hard and smart, take notes, try things, twist things, scale things, automate things, build offline businesses then you'll make so much money.

$150/day is a joke, seriously. I don't know why you're on here boasting about your $150/day highly secretive method. Online marketing really isn't difficult. 70%+ of the things I've ever tried have made me more than $100/day and 20-30% have made over $250/day. Tweaking/scaling gets you to over $1k/day. Expanding and re-investment gets you to $10k/day.

I really hope your $150/day method keeps working for a long time, because when it does finally stop I don't think you're going to have the experience/get up and go/contacts to find more stuff that works.

$150/day is ok if you have a steady job that's guaranteed money for the next 40 years, but for marketing hell no. $150/day will barely cover living costs. The moment your site bombs, the offer removed or the traffic source just tanks in some way you're going to find yourself in serious trouble.

LOL-Blaster said:

To BlueTurtle, ever since you came back after over 3 months of inactivity,
I can't recognize you anymore. You are so full of hate and stress.

Not that same old wise BlueTurtle that give out great advice.
I know for a fact that the old BlueTurtle don't argue over petty shit like the new one.
Is your account hacked or something?

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I'm full of hate because I find a method advocating scamming other marketers to be offensive?

I think you'll find it's the opposite. Someone full of hate is happy to scam for a quick buck.


Blackhat is one thing, but this is scamming. I'm fine with a shady torrent method trying to get people to fill in an offer to watch a movie, but pretending you're selling real visitors, taking money from another marketer and then delivering bot clicks is just scummy.

BlueTurtle said:

Blackhat is one thing, but this is scamming. I'm fine with a shady torrent method trying to get people to fill in an offer to watch a movie, but pretending you're selling real visitors, taking money from another marketer and then delivering bot clicks is just scummy.

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I tend to agree with BlueTurtle on this. That said, I actually go a whole lot further. I personally have issues with content locking stuff that has been pirated already. I dunno. Maybe that's why I stay away from CPA.

Morality is not black and white. It definitely is shades of grey, and we all differ on where we sit on that continuum.

If this forum weren't so full of "Let me brag about how much money I make" threads it might be easier to find stuff here. Im so thrilled BlueTurtle is making an awesome living online and knows everything about internet marketing. Best of luck with people you do business with on here, don't come crying to us when someone like the OP rips you off in the future.

People are money hungry, especially in internet marketing sole proprietors. Im not talking about joint ventures or whatever, Im talking about INDIVIDUALS, if you know anyone making 6 figures that's going to give away their secrets on how they rank in Google, get traffic, etc. to a forum like this for free, then BY ALL MEANS let me know who this kind Jesus of a human being is to just share everything with their competition. Yes, most of the individual marketers on the internet are competing with other individuals, hence most of the people on this forum.

scooby2830 said:

If this forum weren't so full of "Let me brag about how much money I make" threads it might be easier to find stuff here. Im so thrilled BlueTurtle is making an awesome living online and knows everything about internet marketing. Best of luck with people you do business with on here, don't come crying to us when someone like the OP rips you off in the future.

People are money hungry, especially in internet marketing sole proprietors. Im not talking about joint ventures or whatever, Im talking about INDIVIDUALS, if you know anyone making 6 figures that's going to give away their secrets on how they rank in Google, get traffic, etc. to a forum like this for free, then BY ALL MEANS let me know who this kind Jesus of a human being is to just share everything with their competition. Yes, most of the individual marketers on the internet are competing with other individuals, hence most of the people on this forum.

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If there was only some sort of search function that you could use to find what you are looking for so it would be easier to sift through said threads. And maybe if there was an option to sticky some of the important threads that new users could find useful.

http://vvcap.net/db/Am8_Ld8SB-0pfzkaCvIl.htp

This thread has taken an interesting turn for the better.

@BlueTurle What's the difference between this and selling somebody some crap filled WSO? If you are naive enough to think that you can just 'buy' human traffic and expect it to convert, that's your loss. If you want to cut corners by purchasing traffic instead of getting the traffic the hard way, that's your loss. You get what you pay for plain and simple.

@scooby2830 I'm glad you are making 150$/daily. I'm doing about the same with adsense/cpa offers right now and it's awesome. I can honestly say that the reason I make that is because of the connections I made though this site. I'm about to start a dropshipping JV with another member from this forum that will double my income. Couldn't have done it without networking.

scooby2830 said:

If this forum weren't so full of "Let me brag about how much money I make" threads it might be easier to find stuff here. Im so thrilled BlueTurtle is making an awesome living online and knows everything about internet marketing. Best of luck with people you do business with on here, don't come crying to us when someone like the OP rips you off in the future.

People are money hungry, especially in internet marketing sole proprietors. Im not talking about joint ventures or whatever, Im talking about INDIVIDUALS, if you know anyone making 6 figures that's going to give away their secrets on how they rank in Google, get traffic, etc. to a forum like this for free, then BY ALL MEANS let me know who this kind Jesus of a human being is to just share everything with their competition. Yes, most of the individual marketers on the internet are competing with other individuals, hence most of the people on this forum.

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I've been in business for about 8 years now and I've been in online marketing for 5. I've never been ripped off. Not all of us are idiots y'know. It's not hard to spot a real business person who wants to create something of value and a lazy scammer.

You talk about people earning 6 figures a year as if they're elusive billionaires. 6 figures is not a lot, especially since you're probably talking $100k-$300k/year. Even if you have $1mil in net assets you won't be considered rich. $5mil-$10mil+ is what I consider the start of being 'made'. What can you do with 6 figures? You can't get a yacht, you can't get a private jet, you can't even invest in any outside businesses.

$50k-$250k is considered a small investment for businesses, so if you're clearing 6 figures a year you can't even make small investments into outside business. It's really nothing special.

I'm not trying to sound cocky here, but if you consider 6 figures to be a lot then you limit yourself. The way you talk about these people as if they're sitting with super-secrets that the rest of us will never get is ridiculous. 6 figures is only $300/day+

It really doesn't require any special knowledge, I promise. It's just about staying focused and working hard and smart every day. To be honest, even making billions doesn't require any special knowledge. It just requires persistence and being very very shrewd with finances.

I also don't know what your obsession with SEO is. SEO is only 1 small part of online marketing which is one tiny part of business. I only know of 1 SEO who's raking it in but I know of dozens of media buyers making 7 figures. Most people who make a lot of money wouldn't touch SEO with a barge pole.

You can make 6 figures a year running a simple offline business. Just apply basic business skills and you'll get up to $10k/mo easily. That really is small change.

There's just so much money in business. You still have a consumer/employee mindset.

For example many people think $99/mo is a lot of money and no business would pay that for a service. $99/mo is *peanuts* for most decent businesses. For an individual $99/mo is a shit-load of money, but for a business you can charge $499/mo, even $2k/mo quite happily for many services. You're in the wrong mindset, and until you break out of that mindset you'll never be in the 6 figure club, and certainly not the 7 or 8 figure club!


Basically, there are no 'secrets'. That's the whole point. You only think there's 'secrets' because you've been listening to the gurus tell you there's secrets you need to learn. There's not. Online marketing is fairly simple. Just get up every day, try stuff out, take notes, have fun and keep working EVERY DAY with a fiery focus, reinvesting everything you make and you'll hit 6 figures, then 7, then 8.

That's why people share. The people who make 6 figures know that there's no secrets. They just share bits and pieces of their knowledge because they know most people will never put in the work and because it feels good to share. People won't share their latest exact method, but in things like SEO people share a *LOT*. Why? Because it doesn't affect them. As long as they keep their niche/keywords secret then they're fine.

BlueTurtle said:

Ehhh, is this a joke?

I'm naive because I think I can buy human traffic and expect it to convert? I won't even dispute this. I'm sure you're just trolling me.

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I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to people that buy this crap and expect results. Sounds like you got your ducks in a row.

adamkpm said:

I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to people that buy this crap and expect results. Sounds like you got your ducks in a row.

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Never mind. I'm being a bit provocative, I apologize.

I'm sure you mean the 'buy human visitors' rather than media buys etc.

I have been selling REAL HUMAN Traffic for some time, and to cheat people like the OP is cause for bann i think.
the bounce rate would go to the roof using this method and people would for shure drag him down as someone else said.

BlueTurtle said:

Hehe.. I thought you were trolling that's all.

You realize that the biggest earners in the online marketing industry buy traffic? It's pretty much the end-game in marketing. A few SEO's will tell you there's huge money in SEO, and there is, but for the same effort you'll make more buying traffic. There's no limit or waiting around when you buy traffic.

So that's why I'm a bit perplexed at you saying it's naive to expect to be able to buy real human traffic that converts. Why do you have to do it the 'hard way'? What is the hard way anyway? SEO? I agree with you there, it definitely is the hard way.

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I'm obviously on a different level than you because I just assumed that all paid traffic was crap like this. Are you talking about buying leads or straight up traffic.

adamkpm said:

I'm obviously on a different level than you because I just assumed that all paid traffic was crap like this. Are you talking about buying leads or straight up traffic.

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Straight up traffic, but I'm talking about media buys, ppc, ppm, solo-ads(paying people to send an email to their list with your link in it) etc

I wouldnt do this to someone else's site. I just tried the bot with my own website and out off only 100 visitors I put in. I only received 15. That just my opinion and my observation on the bot.