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If i'm using a private proxy can my computer's address still be detected?

Discussion in 'Proxies' started by ycfme, Sep 19, 2010.

  1. ycfme

    ycfme Power Member

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    I realize this maybe a very noobish question, but better to ask than to find out the WRONG way.
    Basically, I want FULL anonymity. I've heard conflicting opinions and am just looking for the facts.

    In a nutshell i've got fresh private proxies, but will my computer's individual ID (I think it's the subnet mask??) be detected? And if so, what's the point in a proxy if you cant go fully undetected?

    Also, when i look in my system preferences I see what I believe to be my computer's ID, however it says "IP address" when I go to IP Chicken it shows another "IP address"

    In another post I was told i'm going thru a gateway.

    Can someone explain this in a NON geekie way?
    :confused:
     
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  2. HoNeYBiRD

    HoNeYBiRD Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    with using a private proxy you can't be anonymous, e.g. your ISP still see what you do, but e.g. you can post on certain sites what you can't do with your own IP

    if you want anonymity, then you should do a research in the direction of VPN services
    but if you're planning to do something illegal, then don't do it, because authorities can ask the VPN provider for your IP

    if somebody really wants your IP and he knows what he does, you can't hide it no matter how hard you try
     
  3. ycfme

    ycfme Power Member

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    Gotcha,
    I dont care if my ISP can see me. I'm more concerned about the sites I will be visiting.

    Can you explain the 2 addresses i am seeing ? (see attachment)
    Will these other sites STILL see my PC's id although I am using a proxy?

    My understanding is there are 2 addresses that can be traced the ip locale and the actual addresse of the computer itself.

    And no I am not doing anything that would warrant the authorities to come knocking on my door.

    My intentions are really more along the lines of CL posting CPA offers etc.

     
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  4. jb007uk

    jb007uk Regular Member

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    Whilst I am no expert and Io am sure that there are better qualified people on here to answer your question, however in my own personal experience who cannot hide your ISP from websites who are on the look on for individuals trying to get round there security for what ever reason.
     
  5. tgarmon

    tgarmon Newbie

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    google "tor" I beleive it is on an .org domain. Totally anonymous.
     
  6. HoNeYBiRD

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    what ipchicken shows you, that's your IP, if you're using a private proxy, then it will show the IP of the private proxy (and that is what matters if you want to post on CL), i'm not sure about the other one tho - i see you're using a Mac - subnet mask maybe, but idk for sure

    so if you're planning to post on CL, then private proxies would be just fine, you don't need full anonymity!
     
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  7. ycfme

    ycfme Power Member

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    i actually spoke with my proxy provider and they gave me the '411'

    i have other interest aside form CL posting, but it's nice to be informed, rather than learning by trial and error.

     
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    You can PM or Yahoo IM/Google GTalk me directly for any proxy related questions. With right configuration on your side, it is possible to maintain 100% anonymous while surfing the sites.
     
  9. thuder555

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    People (regular people) think internet is a place in the "limbo" if exist some place where u dont are anonymous is the internet, think about some net, sooner or later ur gonna find the source of the first string :)
     
  10. ycfme

    ycfme Power Member

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    Thanks:)
    will do...

     
  11. iPwnJ00

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    There are 3 types of proxies, transparent, anonymous and elite.

    Transparent proxies are just a way to make frequently accessed pages faster by caching (storing) it on a server so that the same content does not need to be downloaded again and again for numerous users. They do not provide any privacy at all and if the website wishes to get your real IP address, it's possible.

    Anonymous proxies will hide your IP address by changing your IP address with the address of the proxy. However, it will also pass three HTTP headers, HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR, HTTP_VIA and HTTP_PROXY_CONNECTION. In other words, websites will know that you're using a proxy, but not know what your real IP address is.

    Elite proxies are the ones which have the highest anonymity. They are like anonymous proxies, but they do not pass the three HTTP headers, and hence, it will be as if you are connecting from that proxy.

    You can check the proxy by running it through Charon or such. Private proxies, I believe, should be elite proxies but I can't guarantee this as I don't really use proxies.

    If in doubt, use a VPN. They provide even more anonymity because everything is encrypted.
     
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  12. Sharer

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    Will using either an Elite proxies or VPN slow your computer down?

    I am looking into proxies also but some people complain that some proxies slow their pc down.
     
  13. iPwnJ00

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    It really depends.

    Private proxies are good. I have one running on my VPS and even though I live in Melbourne, Australia and my server is in US, the speed is still quite fast.

    However, no matter how you look at it, it will still slow you down. This is due to the fact that your request has to bounce off the proxy server. But the amount that you will lag will be determined by the location of the proxy server and whether it's private (ie, you're the only one using the server) or if it's public.

    "People saying that proxies are slow" are because they use public proxies. The more people using a proxy, the more requests it has to process and hence, the more lag for everyone.