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Ideas on How to Hire A Good Article Writer?

Discussion in 'Blogging' started by trashtalk, Dec 20, 2015.

  1. trashtalk

    trashtalk Regular Member

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    I have a blog on a certain niche and all of my articles are paid and ordered from different article writers on different sites ( upwork / peopleperhour ) etc. Well i guess some of the articles are good and planning to order more in the future. I want to know the ideas on how to hire a good article writer that can write good product reviews? I mean do i have to tell them what to do and not to do? is there any rule on how to hire a good writer to write review on a certain product?
     
  2. hekke

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    If you want a writer following your "rules" then you need to train them. I actually don't look at what my writer writes anymore and he is the one publishing it. I know that he is writing good stuff as I've trained him properly.

    How you do the training varies from what you want. Maybe give a clear template of the review?

    Here is an example:

    Write a introduction, pros, cons, features and conclusion about the product. I want you to talk in first-person perspective so that it sounds that you frequently use this product or like you are a satisfied consumer. I want you to not mention prize nor the rating it got on Amazon at it could lead to me getting banned - also, here is a good example article so that you can see what I look for: *LINK*.

    - End of example -

    It all comes down to doing proper training so that they do like you want them to, it is impossible for them to know that without any training.

    I made a guide about how I found my writer that I now have hired full-time: http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...85592-guide-how-i-find-writers-0-6-100-a.html. A lot of people have used the same approach and have gotten even cheaper rates! :)

    Good luck!
     
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    Depends on the writer's skill level whether or not you have to explain every single do and don't to them.

    The writers I've hired personally to work for me are the type of writers who I give guidelines and ideas to, and they report back to me with outlines and drafts after which I (or in some cases my editor) approve or disapprove them. Then they just write it out and my editor goes through it all and reports to me.

    My advice is to keep your content constant, don't switch around between different services when you find a good one. Naturally you want to test different ones when you start out.

    And your question is basically answered with yes, there are rules to hiring a good writer, but it's a lot more difficult than just having them answer a simple yes or no question.

    Have you tried out any of the BHW content sellers? There are some real good ones here as well, and if you prefer hiring a freelancer for it, I've found some talented writers from Upwork (loving the hourly tracker tool they provide).

    I tried to answer all your questions, but not 100% if this satisfies it, so do ask if you've got any further ones.
     
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    Hadn't read that before, but good stuff! Pretty much what I do as well when hiring a freelancer to fill up my niche and authority sites.

    When hiring for pristine quality work, then it's a different ball game (can't spot bad writers by just ditching the "dear sir" ones).

    But for your purposes trashtalk, I'd say the example there's perfect.

    Damn I love the applicants who start by saying "Dear sir", makes my job a whole lot easier.

    Oh and a "pro" tip, if you want to pick out the shitty/spammy freelancers who don't even read your job description, put in a random word around 70% into the description and ask them to start their applications with it. (Please mention the word banana in the beginning of your application)

    Saves me a lot of time when asking for applicants to mention the word "banana" first thing, because I can drop half the applicants on that alone. I don't want anybody who doesn't understand/read the description to work for me.
     
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    bartosimpsonio Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    The threads by writers at the BHW marketplace with the most positive reviews and long time writers are excellent. I've hired several of them and the result was extremely high quality. Look for native writers in your language, especially if they have a college degree.
     
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  6. trashtalk

    trashtalk Regular Member

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    Thank you very much.. this is really helpful.

    Thanks sir.. can you suggest some good writers and the price range?

    Thank you mate. Really appreciate it..
     
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    What is your niche?
     
  8. trashtalk

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    why? do i have to tell you my niche? lol
     
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    Stories sell.

    Hire people who tell good stories.

    The reason why MOST REVIEWS don't sell is because they don't frame the BENEFITS of the product being reviewed into a CLEAR MENTAL STORY the reader can easily understand.

    Remember.... people are always asking "What's in it for me?"

    If you frame your VALUE PROPOSITION into a STORY, people can EASILY get INFECTED by your ENTHUSIASM for the product.
     
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    Depends on your article topic and quality you want. Everybody can't write good content on every topic you know.
     
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    There are various sites like fiver,UPwork & in BHW Good threads works well to select a quality writer,when selecting the writer check with their positive reviews ,So you may get some clear idead about the writer's Quality.

    Intially you can also ask for some samples to check with the quality of work!!!
     
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    Sound advice blackbeans!
     
  13. SECONDS

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    Thanks for sharing the guide. I usually required writers for my sites. I will follow your method.
     
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    You will found such expert in freelancer.com and upwork. If you are agreed to give them clear description then they will write it thoroughly. For blog unique articles will be better.
     
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    Like anything, I think you need to put the time in.

    I spent a lot of time asking BHW writers for samples, trawling fiverr & upwork for my niche. It helps that I was a copywriter before. I can spot what I need usually from their sales threads, descriptions, PMs etc, etc. There are so many errors it's hilarious. "Stuffs" and "contents" being two prime examples.

    Anywho, out of the 3 platforms, in reverse order I'd go:

    3) BHW
    2) Fiverr
    1) Upwork

    If your English is o.k, work on improving it and becoming a good copywriter. It takes one to know one.

    If it's not, get samples from good copywriters you can't afford (perhaps $25 per 500 words) and analyze them. Then compare to all the $5 per $500 samples. Read it through to see how it flows. If you read a couple of sentences without realizing -that's a good sign. Then copy and paste it into a free tool like hemmingway.app or Grammarly to immediately check typos (Grammarly) and to check the reading level (Hemmingway).
     
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    Engage the writer in a conversation. Keep talking to him/her about the most random things!

    Usually the way the writer communicates with you is a very telling sign. Just based off of your talks, you can already conclude whether he/she is a damn good writer.

    BUT... if you are not a Native English speaker, then this technique might not work for you since may struggle to tell whether the writer is actually good. So it's best to tap a Native English speaking friend to help you gauge whether the writer is awesome or not.
     
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    The good/mental story thing could actually work very well if the niche/product is about a personal experience or something that ultimately will receive ( or not ) its authority based on the writer's/website's authority. So it could be both good and bad at the same time, depending on your target group and your business in general.

    I prefer a more distantiated approach for some niches, with references to studies or public talks etc, just to show that the article or/and the writer is well researched. This could lead to even smaller articles with a more viral effect, if done right.

    For non native English speakers ( such as myself ) the most difficult part to understand is the manner in which a phrase or even a big block of text is written or narrated. Think about watching a TV series in your native language and then watching another ( similar ) TV series in English. While watching at your native language series, you can tell from the very first moment if the actor is shitty, if his lines seem/sound weird just because he's a bad actor, his movement according to what he's saying etc etc. In an English series, or in a language different from your native one, this is very hard to do, because everything the actor says or does, is not a direct part of your culture, so it's said and done in a different way.

    Same goes with copywriting. You need to be able to position yourself in a situation where what is written is part of its culture, so it has to have a certain narrative and a certain arrangement in between the meaning.

    P.S. Your signature is 100% correct.
     
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    Just go to iwriter. It's fast and decent. I just discovered this recently.
    You can have them write different types of topics and pay a decent amount of money. If you want regular, elite, or elite pro writers... the pricing list depends on their ability. You can also reject their articles (lol) but to avoid that, you can just put as much details as possible.
     
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    You can use freelancer sites to hire a good writer.
    All freelancer sites provides best writer ever.
     
  20. LoftPower

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    You do need to tell writers what you want, as they will not be able to read your mind. And what you want someone else may not want, so there is not a rule that writers neccessarily follow.