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I will not be vaccinated!
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Sosolapute
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Everyone should be free to decide whether to take it or not to take it. I'm glad that in the united states some states are fining businesses that request proof of vaccination, the rest of the world should follow.
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You have 99.7% chance to survive covid, why there's so much panic about the virus? It's summer so enjoy it and focus on more important things. Mandatory vaccination, vacine passport - Facism.
Most of the people are idiots, especially those who's in their 20's with the masks on , outside.
Most of the people are idiots, especially those who's in their 20's with the masks on , outside.
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Willyfish
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what do you think about fashion masks?
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They used to sell pretty good on Etsy when this whole thing started.
But in reality, I don't wear them because I hate the way they look and I laugh at idiots who wear them outside. This whole thing is ridiculous to me, because like I stated earlier you have a very high chance of beating covid. If you are young and take care of your body, you don't have to worry about it in my opinion.
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You guys really think it is a coincidence that the spike proteins accumulate at the fertility organs ?
Or the coincidence that the major chinese baby food producer announcing that the demand for baby related products will go down massivly in the next 6 months ?
Or the coincidence that the major chinese baby food producer announcing that the demand for baby related products will go down massivly in the next 6 months ?
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This is good news for democracy and human rights! If there is any news or official announcement about this, could you please provide a reference link?
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Can you provide a reference url for both lines? (An article on this subject and a news site about the manufacturer's statement)
This information, which is said without a reference, casts shadows on reasonable doubts and exposes them to conspiracy theory accusations. So for people to consider, at least provide a reference one or two urls for what you're saying. That way, people can get an idea of how true or false what you're saying is. You should tell how you got the information.
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Thanks! This is a good start. I hope it will set an example for other countries. Because you are hiring them in your company, you cannot make them your slaves. Private companies in some countries around the world require their staff to be vaccinated or they will be fired says. It seems that this situation will spread more and more in the world as time goes on. Control of democracy or human rights should not be left to the head of WHO. About the WHO senator see here https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/i-will-not-be-vaccinated.1334130/post-14433676
It was posted on the herald which is a paid news website.
People won't get good information from free news website.All they get there is junk to form (manipulate) their opinion based on news media agenda.
Most important point to be successfull in business is Information.I don't know any successfull guy who isn't spending $1000 per month on news starting from a private news squak for $700
Here the reaction of that message
https://www.thestandard.com.hk/sect...048/Feihe-in-US$200m-buyback-as-shares-plunge
Spike proteins attacking fertility organs is known since Sars 2 .If someone wants to read sources he just needs to google for
"spike protein attacking organs" and pick the source he trusts himself.
What i can tell you is that majority of new rich people are not smarter than others but they got sources for information.You are well informed you know where to make your profit without risk
Btw why Bill and Melinda lost support in india in 2014 publicly ?Because of testing vaccines on school girls which caused infertility and even deaths ?
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...rom-critics-in-india/articleshow/41280050.cms
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Enjoy a dose of communism propaganda
https://rumble.com/vioxmn-chinese-virus-vaccine-produces-toxic-effects-british-researchers-call-on-go.html
https://rumble.com/visvyl-sen.-ron-johnson-on-vaers-system-vaccine-deaths-and-youtube-censorship.html
you can't talk bad about the vaccine in youtube they nuked 3h podcast of the inventor of mRNA warrning against spike protein pretty much obvouis that this vaccine is global time bomb . the police in my country coming to hours home asking why we don't get vaccinated rather how about asking what's wrong with the vaccine WTF ....
https://rumble.com/vioxmn-chinese-virus-vaccine-produces-toxic-effects-british-researchers-call-on-go.html
https://rumble.com/visvyl-sen.-ron-johnson-on-vaers-system-vaccine-deaths-and-youtube-censorship.html
you can't talk bad about the vaccine in youtube they nuked 3h podcast of the inventor of mRNA warrning against spike protein pretty much obvouis that this vaccine is global time bomb . the police in my country coming to hours home asking why we don't get vaccinated rather how about asking what's wrong with the vaccine WTF ....
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This time you're really getting into conspiracy theory. This is bullshit. First Bullshit is that you say payer will get real info. This is not convincing, if there are such websites, I can compare it to a pyramid scheme. On the other hand, I have not come across enough claims or research to listen to the fact that vaccines cause infertility. (or I couldn't find any potentially suspicious data.)
A company that manufactures baby products in China may have said that sales will decline due to vaccines. First, is there really such an explanation? It should be verified by more than one source or take a look at the official statements of that company. Second, what is the firm's intention and knowledge, if such a statement actually exists? However, in these two cases, suspicion reaches the level of questioning.
The only thing I have done about it is that there is no fair and impartial discussion for the safety of the vaccine and there is no transparency. On the other hand, when the contradictions came together, my confidence in the vaccine disappeared. So my questioning on this issue expressed a legitimate question and doubt. Please do not distort it with rumors that will go into conspiracy theory. For example, the inventor of the vaccine is under universal censorship, question this... This will be a justified questioning and doubt. But for others, there is no level to doubt. To doubt and question, sufficient evidence and contradictions must come together. Otherwise, you become a conspiracy theorist. Unfortunately!
When I looked at the contradictions, the censorship and exaggerations, and the case reports falsified by the WHO, I thought it was a fiasco. Under these contradictions and doubts, I even started to suspect that vaccine companies could even get into this business just to make money. But I didn't claim anything, I just decided that caution should be exercised as nothing seems clear. So my suspicions were on a legitimate level. My purpose in opening this thread was to know about other news about the vaccine and to find out what others were saying, despite the WHO's overly optimistic attitude. Without enough observation, without enough data, everything you say falls into conspiracy theory and casts shadow on legitimate questions and doubts. Do not do this!
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"Once again I feel it necessary to make a clear and unambiguous statement. The data strongly indicate that the experimental genetic vaccines, including the mRNA and recombinant adenoviral vaccines, have saved lives. Many lives.
But it is also increasingly clear that there are some risks associated with these vaccines. Various governments have attempted to deny that this is the case. But they are wrong. Vaccination-associated coagulation is a risk. Cardiotoxicity is a risk. Those are proven, and discussed in official USG communications, as well as communications from a variety of other governments.
Based on what I have seen, I believe that other toxicity risks will become more apparent. These include menstrual irregularities, development of thrombocytopenia, cerebrovascular effects, and reactivation of latent viruses such as clinical shingles.
But we do not know how prevalent these are, and the spectrum of severity is unknown and possibly unknowable because the V-Safe database is not being shared outside of CDC, the VAERS systems is deeply flawed, and we just do not have the comprehensive safety data necessary to accurately evaluate risk/benefit for the various cohorts - elderly, healthy normal adults, immunocompromised, pregnancy, adolescents, children, and infants. Particularly the long term safety data necessary to evaluate risks such as autoimmune complications that may manifest months or years post-vaccination. That is just a https://www.linkedin.com/signup/cold-join?session_redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Elinkedin%2Ecom%2Ffeed%2Fhashtag%2Fsciencefact&trk=public_post_share-update_update-text."
Robert W Malone, the inventor of the mRNA vaccine, expressed these yesterday. https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6812703149678243841/)
I believe he has the right to speak and I listen to his opinions. Unfortunately, mainstream media outlets ignore this scientist.
But it is also increasingly clear that there are some risks associated with these vaccines. Various governments have attempted to deny that this is the case. But they are wrong. Vaccination-associated coagulation is a risk. Cardiotoxicity is a risk. Those are proven, and discussed in official USG communications, as well as communications from a variety of other governments.
Based on what I have seen, I believe that other toxicity risks will become more apparent. These include menstrual irregularities, development of thrombocytopenia, cerebrovascular effects, and reactivation of latent viruses such as clinical shingles.
But we do not know how prevalent these are, and the spectrum of severity is unknown and possibly unknowable because the V-Safe database is not being shared outside of CDC, the VAERS systems is deeply flawed, and we just do not have the comprehensive safety data necessary to accurately evaluate risk/benefit for the various cohorts - elderly, healthy normal adults, immunocompromised, pregnancy, adolescents, children, and infants. Particularly the long term safety data necessary to evaluate risks such as autoimmune complications that may manifest months or years post-vaccination. That is just a https://www.linkedin.com/signup/cold-join?session_redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Elinkedin%2Ecom%2Ffeed%2Fhashtag%2Fsciencefact&trk=public_post_share-update_update-text."
Robert W Malone, the inventor of the mRNA vaccine, expressed these yesterday. https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6812703149678243841/)
I believe he has the right to speak and I listen to his opinions. Unfortunately, mainstream media outlets ignore this scientist.
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I'm not sure, why you guys keep referring to Dr Malone as the "inventor of mRNA vaccine technology". To say the least, it's misleading. The mRNA vaccines were developed using the licenses of others and not Dr Malone, if he owns any patent at all regarding this.
The mRNA transport mechanism was co-discovered by a Hungarian biochemist called Katalin Karikó and Drew Weismann back in 2005 at the University of Pennsylvania. The initial researches date back to the early 90s. They co-own two patents: US8278036B2 (2009), US8748089B2 (2013). Both Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna licensed the invention from Karikó and Weismann and not from Dr Malone. Karikó is the vice president of BioNTech.
When you know this, it makes you think, what else is not true they talk about in the video? Dr Malone might feel left out. Not getting the fame and money, because pharma companies used the patents of others, he's not the one who's a potential candidate for the Nobel Peace Prize. At this point, even if he's telling the truth, it's questionable why he says, what he says.
You must have an enormous police force there, if they have the time to visit and agitate the non-vaccinated besides doing their regular tasks.
Even in countries with just 10M population, it would mean, they need to visit at least a million of families, if the vaccination level is around 50%, which is much lower mostly. Unless they're picking on you for something, i have a hard time believing this.Or they can think of better ways to spend their money than paying fines, so they simply follow the rules.
I always wondered, how a big load of bollocks look like. Now you just posted it.
If you want something actually credible:
100 dead, ~133.7M vaccine doses administered as of 28 April 2021. The causality between these deaths and the vaccines has not been assessed.
"Most COVID-19 side effects reported to date have been general events, such as ‘flu-like’ conditions and application site pain. These events occur within seven days of vaccination and are not associated with serious illness."
Source: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/de...o-COVID-19-vaccination-and-safety-of-SoHO.pdf
For the fun factor, let's not question the credibility of the obvious fake stats on your picture and say, there are 15k deaths in Europe caused by the vaccines. Do you know how many vaccine doses have been administered total in Europe to date? You can check it, it's somewhere around 450M, which must mean ~200M fully vaccinated.
Which one is the worse outcome: (1) ~15k vaccine deaths out of 200M fully vaccinated or (2) the number of the potential deaths caused by the virus in the same 200M in case of infection without being vaccinated? Hint: apparently there are 3.9M dead out of 180M infected worldwide and both numbers are heavily underreported.
On one side: ~15k vaccine deaths out of ~200M vaccinated, on the other side 3.9M dead out of 180M infected. I don't know about you, but i can see a few place value difference.
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I have to answer! Robert W Malone is not a charlatan. Unfortunately, he was subject to various honor-jarring claims during his concerns over mRNA vaccines. (rumors claiming not to be the inventor of mRNA vaccines...) Maybe not alone; that's true, but he is definitely among the inventors of the mRNA vaccine.
Here is the Official Document: Date - 1996 mRNA Vaccine / Inventors - Robert W Malone
https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=13&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%22Malone%3B+Robert%22.INNM.&s2=DNA&OS=IN/%22Malone;+Robert%22+AND+DNA&RS=IN/%22Malone;+Robert%22+AND+DNA
Other patents by Robert W Malone:
https://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=Malone;+Robert&FIELD1=INNM&co1=AND&TERM2=DNA&FIELD2=&d=PTXT
And just one example: (An article describing mRNA vaccines states in the history section that the first study was done by R.W Malone.)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8071766/
Robert W Malone is a scientist and has the right to speak.
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