coreygeer
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- Oct 30, 2007
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For a long time now, I've been doing what's known as "the chase". It's basically, where you write for people for the forums. Work usually isn't steady enough to pay bills and for some reason, the majority of people take forever to respond. My general experience with the following forums when it comes to writing for clients:
BHW - This is my favorite place to pick up clients but there's a lot less people looking for white hat content than on the other forums (and duh.. it's BHW). People always respond quick and I never have to chase anyone down or argue with anyone on price. Sure, I've had a couple people trying to find a slave to crack their whip (AKA: $.50c per word), but it happens everywhere.
WF - If Warrior Forum were a living person, I would shoot it. Not only are these people the most incompetent people I've ever met in my entire life, they're an absolute nightmare to write for. Most of them take 48 hours to a week to respond. Not only that, but none of them will pay you up front and you might end up waiting a week to receive payment. It's not that they don't intend to pay you, it's that these people like to put on the illusion that they're always busy. Warrior Forum is basically a circle jerk of delusional retards and the majority of them are old fart geezers.
Forum That Starts With D - While these people are easy to get a hold of, the problem is they're all looking for people willing to write for .50c per 100 words at the best. I've found a few people off of there in my career that are willing to pay my usual rate of $3.00 per 100 words but they don't stick around long.
That's the problem with forums, the majority of those people start up a site, get some content and disappear after a month or so when it's not making them as much money as they would hope. So now, you enter iWriter and Textbroker. I submitted my sample article on Textbroker and they put me at a Level 4. I slaved through some crappy iWriter gigs, and got to "Premium" writer. I did this before the image system was put in place and I had people rejecting me just to take the content for free, or else I would probably be Elite.
I'd like some genuine opinions on these two sites as I'm thinking about making the move to them and ditching forums completely until I can get a website up and running and a steady client base from it.
My gripes with iWriter/Textbroker
- The clients want so many instructions fulfilled it's ridiculous. I have literally seen 300 word articles on there with 500 words of "special instructions". Holy mother of shit, skip!
- Some of the clients want you to take the time to put in headers and images. I didn't even know you could include images in the text editor of iWriter...
- While the rates even as a Premium writer are low on iWriter, at least you'll be paid every Tuesday or whenever you choose to be paid out. You won't have to chase down a client or wonder if you're ever going to get paid at all, if your minimum payout is fulfilled, you'll be paid.
- However, the support is usually amazing from Textbroker/iWriter. I've e-mailed both of them a few times and never had to wait half a day to hear back from someone.
- I'm the one who suggested some of the features currently on iWriter. Some of the ones I suggested were:
A) Showing the average wait time of clients to approve an article.
B) The average approval percentage of a client.
C) How many tips a client has sent for a well constructed article.
My other concern is that iWriter seems to have a scary lack of work some days with only 1 page of Premium orders and only half of them are in English. Textbroker always has a boatload of work but for some reason I'm hesitant to try them out. I like the Navigation and user interface of iWriter better though which is why I'm coming here to ask opinions.
Your thoughts?
BHW - This is my favorite place to pick up clients but there's a lot less people looking for white hat content than on the other forums (and duh.. it's BHW). People always respond quick and I never have to chase anyone down or argue with anyone on price. Sure, I've had a couple people trying to find a slave to crack their whip (AKA: $.50c per word), but it happens everywhere.
WF - If Warrior Forum were a living person, I would shoot it. Not only are these people the most incompetent people I've ever met in my entire life, they're an absolute nightmare to write for. Most of them take 48 hours to a week to respond. Not only that, but none of them will pay you up front and you might end up waiting a week to receive payment. It's not that they don't intend to pay you, it's that these people like to put on the illusion that they're always busy. Warrior Forum is basically a circle jerk of delusional retards and the majority of them are old fart geezers.
Forum That Starts With D - While these people are easy to get a hold of, the problem is they're all looking for people willing to write for .50c per 100 words at the best. I've found a few people off of there in my career that are willing to pay my usual rate of $3.00 per 100 words but they don't stick around long.
That's the problem with forums, the majority of those people start up a site, get some content and disappear after a month or so when it's not making them as much money as they would hope. So now, you enter iWriter and Textbroker. I submitted my sample article on Textbroker and they put me at a Level 4. I slaved through some crappy iWriter gigs, and got to "Premium" writer. I did this before the image system was put in place and I had people rejecting me just to take the content for free, or else I would probably be Elite.
I'd like some genuine opinions on these two sites as I'm thinking about making the move to them and ditching forums completely until I can get a website up and running and a steady client base from it.
My gripes with iWriter/Textbroker
- The clients want so many instructions fulfilled it's ridiculous. I have literally seen 300 word articles on there with 500 words of "special instructions". Holy mother of shit, skip!
- Some of the clients want you to take the time to put in headers and images. I didn't even know you could include images in the text editor of iWriter...
- While the rates even as a Premium writer are low on iWriter, at least you'll be paid every Tuesday or whenever you choose to be paid out. You won't have to chase down a client or wonder if you're ever going to get paid at all, if your minimum payout is fulfilled, you'll be paid.
- However, the support is usually amazing from Textbroker/iWriter. I've e-mailed both of them a few times and never had to wait half a day to hear back from someone.
- I'm the one who suggested some of the features currently on iWriter. Some of the ones I suggested were:
A) Showing the average wait time of clients to approve an article.
B) The average approval percentage of a client.
C) How many tips a client has sent for a well constructed article.
My other concern is that iWriter seems to have a scary lack of work some days with only 1 page of Premium orders and only half of them are in English. Textbroker always has a boatload of work but for some reason I'm hesitant to try them out. I like the Navigation and user interface of iWriter better though which is why I'm coming here to ask opinions.
Your thoughts?
