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I increased my rank easily

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by SamSpade88, Jun 10, 2010.

  1. SamSpade88

    SamSpade88 Newbie

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    I used a bot to keep clicking this link for a month and it went from number 6 to number 1 or 2 depending on where you google it. But I am unsure if it might get sandboxed if I do it too much. Any advice? http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/1112/150.html

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  2. sfidirectory

    sfidirectory Senior Member

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    Hey there,

    What was the bot you used to do this clicking and is it for free?

    If Google has no way of finding out that you are using a bot to click on the link multiple times then you shouldn't have anything to worry about. What happens if your site suddenly went viral and you got 2,000,000 clicks within a week? I don't think Google can tell the difference from a genuine visit where someone is actually clicking on the links as opposed to using a bot that automates it. I am not completely sure if this is the case but it is just from what I know at the moment. If anyone can share some more info on this thread please do as I would like to see more info on this too.

    Cheers and long live BHW!
     
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    clear all your cache files ,or try use another pc to search in google,maybe you can see some diffrents
     
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    log out or use ie.
     
  5. SamSpade88

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    I used ubot and just picked a search term and this site at random to see if I could move it. It has moved even when I view it from other peoples computers in different locations. I used IP rental to change my IP's and web browser constantly so google thinks I am different people. I even turned off the browser rotation and cache clearing and they still worked with just a new IP alone every 12 minutes. I stayed on the site
    for only enough time to download the logo.

    However, I did get tons of warning messages from google sometimes that said:

    "you appear to be runnung automated queries, to protect our users we can not complete your request"

    Also,

    "Did you intend to click this link if so then proceed."

    I guess google put that last page between the search results page and the main website link to trip up peoples bots.

    My question is how much is too much?
     
  6. SamSpade88

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    I chose this site and key words pretty much randomly after reading articles but I chose it to test because is an old boring story that I should be the ony one clicking so I could gauge it.

    Please google:

    "Mark Roy Anderson Beverly Hills"

    and see if its number 1 or 2 where you are and please tell me what part of the country you are in so I can see if I should keep clicking the link.

    Thanks, we can all use this info.
     
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    Number 1 on google.cl
     
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    #2 on google.com and google.ca
     
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    You're talking about Forbes, no way that's gonna get sandboxed, you try doing that on your own, fresh domain :) Google will catch up, don't worry.
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    It's second in google.fi
     
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    6 on Google UK
     
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    Do you use proxies? I don't think views count much if they are coming from the same IP
     
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    I'm not sure what this proves....

    Interestingly on Google.com.au for that phrase the forbes site is number 6. BUT this thread on black hat world is number 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Matt
     
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  16. SamSpade88

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    Yes, I was rotating Ip's every 1-12 minutes randomly.

    Also I had about 8 web browser screens running their own identical bots to create 8 times the clicks on the link. for the first month I cleared my cookies and changed to show a random different browser upon each ip change.

    The point is I moved it. However maybe i picked a bad target because forbes may not be treated the same as a less important link. The total clicks were about 4 times a minute x 8 screens 24 hours a day for over a month. That may be a drop in the bucket for forbes but not for that old story.

    Still it wories me that google can see that for those 12 minutes all the clicks came from the same IP and web browser plus the same cookie was intact for that 12 minutes. I pushed through a few warning pages from google but I am unsure what is the point of getting sandboxed. Is it site dependent? was there a red flag tripped but they left it because it's a big news site? If so, why let me get away with bumping it up?

    I think the value here is if you have a client that wants good search results not only for his site but his reputation, you could write articles and push them all up to flood the top 10 results.

    Incidently, it may show as number 6 a small percentage of time but if you do ilke, 3 searches you may see it pop up mostly at number 1 or 2.

    Any thoughts?
     
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    I wonder how that would work on article. I assume you are doing this to see if traffic pushes up the website in the SERPS. How would this get a site sandboxed?
     
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  19. SamSpade88

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    The goal is to test and see 2 things:

    1. To seeif I can push a site up by clicking on it with my bot. I now know the answer is yes.

    2. Next, Test to the point of failure. If we can discover the point at which google can not only recognize the automation but will sand box or de-list a site then we can use that info to rech the maximum clicks biggest push for any site.

    Tests I have done include always using random IP at 12 minute intervals max.

    Tests have varied from clearing the cache with each IP change to NOT clearing the cache for days.

    Tests have vaired from using a rotating random browser with every IP to NOT using a random browser.

    I have tested, at one point, the bot to show only Ubuntu browser and kept the same cache for over a full day. Still not sandboxed.

    The reason why this is important is because Google effectivly sells "relavant searches". That's google main product. If anyone can openly manipulate the rank just by clicking on it then it has the potential to hurt their product. Therefore you would have to assume google would try to discover these bots and either return the rank to the original position or sandbox the bot users site.
     
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    Please share this bot !