I had this thought....

So i've had an idea about building a PBN.

I was going to start from scratch and put 5-8 posts on each site. Prob around 5 websites.

Flood those websites with traffic (bot) 24/7 from a VPS with the hope that this will help raise the DA/PR or whatever ppl want to call it these days. Then build links out from those websites to money site once the ranking has risen.

Do people think this is plausible? Or just a waste of time?

You have 50-50 chances. So is your time, the main question is it can be used better?

It's possible

ciupanezul11 said:

You have 50-50 chances. So is your time, the main question is it can be used better?

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My other thought was to just buy PBN back links when I need them. But then you don't have total control over that network.... So still a risk.

They would also be completely new domains. Not expired. I've done lots of research into buying expired domains but it appears they can be hit and miss as well.

Creating PBN from fresh domains is useless. You create it on expired domains because they have established backlinks and link juice. Fresh domains have nothing.

Spamming it with traffic bot is also useless but you can try it, I never heard of someone actually doing it so maybe you will be first. Maybe this is loophole for number #1 on Google, you never know.

You seem to be indicating that you think spamming traffic will raise DA/PR. That's not the case as those are metrics based on links not traffic.

To build a PBN of value you need links behind your PBN sites. That would either be using good expired domains with existing links, or building links to newly registered sites. Using expired domains is the usual route as it tends to be the most effective.

Instead of blasting them with useless bot traffic consider social signals along with links.

Why would you send cheap bot traffic? Those 5-8 posts you're making, just target really low competition keywords in your category/niche, and real traffic will come? And as @Mike9587 above me said, build some links to the PBNs too.

Ok. I've been doing a bit of research the last few days. Looking at competitors backlinking structure and it goes like this:

MONEY SITE
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BLOG POST (appears to be a bought post on someone elses PBN)

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SHIT LOAD OF BLOGSPOT BACKLINKS.



It appears that formula works quite well. However, where do i get the blogspot backlinks from if i wanted to start a PBN from scratch? I have SERengines but that's kind of useless for blogspot stuff.

I have the time to build a dedicated PBN of my own so i'm not looking for fast results. Just sustained results over a longer period of time.

There’re many sellers who can create for you,your own pbn networks, but with google update your site is bound to loose authority if you follow this method.

I would suggest create those sites, use hq guest posts and niche edits plus social signals repeat this process till you’re making millions from it.

Make sure your on page seo is completely ready before you buy links.

Listen, you need to think a few steps back to see if it makes sense for you to even try this...

Five expired domains, with at least a decent quality, you won't get for less than $500 total. Add hosting expenses (each should be on a different host), and other, and you easily have 1K starting costs (plus then there are maintenance costs as well).

Now, five domains isn't much... I tried it before, cca 2years ago, small PBN with 8 domains, much better than most that you can buy here (do not want to say that it was better than all PBN services, since I do not know all sales threads here).
But it was pretty good, some domains cost more than $200 ... many RD....

The result? Very little improvement. Definitely not worth the effort and expenses.

In my opinion, for 1K + the time involved, you can do much much better things for your money sites. Especially in 2019.

Kikerinka said:

Listen, you need to think a few steps back to see if it makes sense for you to even try this...

Five expired domains, with at least a decent quality, you won't get for less than $500 total. Add hosting expenses (each should be on a different host), and other, and you easily have 1K starting costs (plus then there are maintenance costs as well).

Now, five domains isn't much... I tried it before, cca 2years ago, small PBN with 8 domains, much better than most that you can buy here (do not want to say that it was better than all PBN services, since I do not know all sales threads here).
But it was pretty good, some domains cost more than $200 ... many RD....

The result? Very little improvement. Definitely not worth the effort and expenses.

In my opinion, for 1K + the time involved, you can do much much better things for your money sites. Especially in 2019.

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What better things do you suggest?

I have the $$$ and am happy to invest in better options.

At the moment I have GSA SER and scrapebox but haven't used them for a While though.

I'm happy to invest in other software or whatever really to make stuff happen.

fellowhatter said:

What better things do you suggest?

I have the $$$ and am happy to invest in better options.

At the moment I have GSA SER and scrapebox but haven't used them for a While though.

I'm happy to invest in other software or whatever really to make stuff happen.

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There's nothing like guaranteed off-page SEO method in 2019. If you have 1K to invest, you can invest in getting 40-50 new top quality articles for your money site(s) ($20-25/article), or you can have someone make for you a very decent quality YT channel (to promote your brand, and get traffic this way, from social media).
You can also spend them on ads, and bring targeted traffic directly to your money site, without need to improve rank.

But these are just ideas....
If you are only after links, however, it's hard to say what works nowadays (of course everyone has their opinion).
I would say (my opinion), go for links on sites that people will click on, and navigate to your site. That means websites with real traffic.

An honest blog comment on an article that ranks for some keywords relevant to your niche, which will motivate someone to click and go to your site from time to time, may be more relevant and worthy than a link on some PBN with no real traffic and great metrics...
Or you can hire an outreach person to get decent guest blogging opportunities for you (free and paid).

Believe me, I have much more than 1K to invest . And certainly I am not alone in such a position... but it's really tricky now with links, and the money may as well end up totally wasted.

Kikerinka said:

you can invest in getting 40-50 new top quality articles for your money site(s) ($20-25/article),
You can also spend them on ads, and bring targeted traffic directly to your money site, without need to improve rank.

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which services do you recommend?

beatsmyth said:

which services do you recommend?

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Honestly, I do not have any particular service in my mind.
But when I approached various experts directly on LinkedIn, or started a project on Freelancer, needing some top-notch content for specific sub-niches of my niches, from native speakers, that's about a price I paid... $20-$25 for circa 1K word article.

Not really sure if there's a service with such a price tag on BHW (in article writing), since people here mostly look for a cheap deal...

In terms of Ads - you should do this yourself! No need to hire anyone to run ads for you.

Too many thoughts. You need to put them into practice.