I found the key to selling shit

Thanks for the advice man, could you do you provide only SEO services, I'm 22 looking forward to start the same journey... how do you deal with the time necessary to see actual results in the SEO area? Do you charge them a monthly retainer? thanks in advance.
 
The key to selling people things...

Don’t sell it to them!
Compliment your competitors!
Promote and be proud of your flaws!

That may sound idiotic, but let me explain.

You come across as desperate, when you shouldn’t be. You try to fake it till you make it thinking you’re so smart right, no, terrible advice. Everyone is smart. Value them as so. Now ur lying and there’s holes in ur story and ur stuttering and hesitating and fucking up cuz ur making shit up.

Had a client asking for some SEO services..

We talk over what he wants to ACHIEVE.
I ask questions to figure out his NEEDS & his WANTS. Where he is at and where he wants to be. This is the foundation.

Then.

I say hey, well what are your options for buying the service?

Surely I’m not the only one on the table, I understand that. Theres a ton of other great options out there, And I don’t want to mess up anything you already have going on with one of my competitors.

He tells me about my competitors, what they’ve done or what they want to do etc.

I COMPLIMENT THE COMPETITORS!!!
I TELL HIM THEY PROVIDE THE SAME QUALITY SERVICE AS ME AND OF COURSE I DONT KNOW THEM SO IM NOT SURE BUT ID BE WILLING TO BET ITS GREAT JUST LIKE MINE BECAUSE EVERYONE DOES THIS STUFF THE SAME WAY..

BUT,

I tell him the truth.

“ Oh awesome man, that’s great, I don’t know them personally so I can’t say for sure but I bet they do great work. So I’ll be honest with you man, I’m not gonna sit here and lie to you and tell you oh mines better and I do this different blah blah blah just to sell you something man. I’m sure you get that shit all the time just like I do. There’s no crazy secret thing here, some people might say so but I mean let’s be real here. Of course theyre gonna tell you they have the best thing since sliced bread, they want you to buy it. all agencies including myself do SEO the same way really. I don’t have any problem admitting that when 90% of people don’t because I have a unique angle on the market that keeps work coming in. I’m sure you know I’m not some big agency, I’m just a single member LLC, I hire people for a few things here and there but it’s really just me. Which allows me to do the same work as everyone else like we said, but since it’s just me I’m able to put more time into it, I put in more effort to make things I’m proud of, and I can always beat big agency prices because I don’t have the overhead they do of huge office buildings, employees etc. etc.

I mean let’s be real here man, I’m running my business out of my house!

Client : oh man I hear that! I do the exact same. It’s just me running the show here too, I actually really like working with businesses like that. I appreciate you being honest with me, guys give me the run around all the time trying to sell me shit thinking I’m stupid.

** client now understands the advantage of working with me, and knows I’m honest because I’m telling him the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH, including my shortcomings! Leaving NOTHING out. Fake it till you make it in a b2b environment is shit advice. People can smell it from a mile away. **

As the conversation went on.

He kept adding on work he wanted me to do, without me offering it to him.

He went from a $500 sale, to a $3,000 sale in less than 5 minutes. Kept adding on stuff over and over. And he was EXCITED. Because he finally found someone that wasn’t bullshitting him and made him feel like the valuable person he is instead of a checkbook.

#1. Value them and treat them as the smart individual they are. No trickery, no urgency, no pushy shit.

#2. HONESTY. Admit your shortcomings UPFRONT WITHOUT THEM ASKING. Acknowledge the value of your competitors because... they have value and it’s the truth.

#3. Unique angle. Present yourself as the trustworthy, honest person you are. And tell them what makes you different. How have you been successful? I’ve been successful because I’m a small fry with years of experience, which means I do the same shit as everyone else but can work for less since I’m running my business out of my bedroom next to a hibachi container and 2 empty corona bottles I had for dinner.
And the client can feel that you're enthusiastic about your work. They feel you'll be dedicated to giving them success. And so you win the contract.
 
Yep. Did roughly 15k profit last month.
Biggest deal this week was $4780.
So I guess it’s working.
I’m honest, I’m myself, I’m a person with quirks just like my clients. Not a robot.

I genuinely want to be friends with my clients, I care about them and their families, their profitability, the money they are spending. They feed their children with that.

I’ve been depressed and scared since I was 5 years old and God took me out of the shadow of the valley of death. I owe my life, I’m so grateful, Now my only purpose here is to be a servant to the people I come across. I make money to use as advertising dollars to serve more people and help my family.

I’m also 21 and skateboard a lot so that could be why I talk like that. But nonetheless.

Humanity, humility, and love
I LOVE THIS. The term "being professional" has now transformed more to being fake, robotic, programmed and aiming towards 1 goal (A SALE).

It makes me look down on people that call themselves "business men". That term makes people less humane. Makes them care only about the money and never about the customer.
 
Very delighted to read this post and comments!
Thanks a bunch BHW members for putting on effort and sharing ideas!

An Awful forum of Awesome members!!

Thanks again
 
Hell yeah. This is good advice. It's true that we're all trying to push our thing. We're scared of losing clients, market, whatever. Honesty goes a long way. But also can lead to lose clients. You have to balance an honest pitch with a sense of eagerness and security as well. Recently I was interviewing for a development position to scratch a very specific itch. A guy heard what my problem was and said: "I think I can figure out but I don't have experience with that. You might want to look elsewhere if you're in a hurry. Let me know if you can't find anyone to solve it ASAP and in that case I'll work with you." I found somewhere else more capable but still wanted to get this guy a job. Like, in the future I might ask him or even recommend him.
 
Hell yeah. This is good advice. It's true that we're all trying to push our thing. We're scared of losing clients, market, whatever. Honesty goes a long way. But also can lead to lose clients. You have to balance an honest pitch with a sense of eagerness and security as well. Recently I was interviewing for a development position to scratch a very specific itch. A guy heard what my problem was and said: "I think I can figure out but I don't have experience with that. You might want to look elsewhere if you're in a hurry. Let me know if you can't find anyone to solve it ASAP and in that case I'll work with you." I found somewhere else more capable but still wanted to get this guy a job. Like, in the future I might ask him or even recommend him.

You're right. Sometimes pure honesty can lea to loosing the job. Though in your case, they were not qualified for it in the first place so they should not see it as loosing the job.

If a client asked if I could work on some animation (he has a $200k project). I will be honest and say I can't work on such a project but can recommend. I can definately learn it too. But I will not expect such a job because I am not qualified. In that case, my honesty will give more trust.

But there are still times when you are very qualified, but being too onest will discourage the client so your point is still valid. For me, I still prefer pure honesty anytime or day.

When you ar saying the truth, you don't have to have a good memory :):):):):):):):)
 
I think it all goes back to basics treat people with respect even competitors and everything will come together although every sale situation is different and personality types differ the make them feel special and valued is universal to all people good shit bro :)
 
The key to selling people things...

Don’t sell it to them!
Compliment your competitors!
Promote and be proud of your flaws!

That may sound idiotic, but let me explain.

You come across as desperate, when you shouldn’t be. You try to fake it till you make it thinking you’re so smart right, no, terrible advice. Everyone is smart. Value them as so. Now ur lying and there’s holes in ur story and ur stuttering and hesitating and fucking up cuz ur making shit up.

Had a client asking for some SEO services..

We talk over what he wants to ACHIEVE.
I ask questions to figure out his NEEDS & his WANTS. Where he is at and where he wants to be. This is the foundation.

Then.

I say hey, well what are your options for buying the service?

Surely I’m not the only one on the table, I understand that. Theres a ton of other great options out there, And I don’t want to mess up anything you already have going on with one of my competitors.

He tells me about my competitors, what they’ve done or what they want to do etc.

I COMPLIMENT THE COMPETITORS!!!
I TELL HIM THEY PROVIDE THE SAME QUALITY SERVICE AS ME AND OF COURSE I DONT KNOW THEM SO IM NOT SURE BUT ID BE WILLING TO BET ITS GREAT JUST LIKE MINE BECAUSE EVERYONE DOES THIS STUFF THE SAME WAY..

BUT,

I tell him the truth.

“ Oh awesome man, that’s great, I don’t know them personally so I can’t say for sure but I bet they do great work. So I’ll be honest with you man, I’m not gonna sit here and lie to you and tell you oh mines better and I do this different blah blah blah just to sell you something man. I’m sure you get that shit all the time just like I do. There’s no crazy secret thing here, some people might say so but I mean let’s be real here. Of course theyre gonna tell you they have the best thing since sliced bread, they want you to buy it. all agencies including myself do SEO the same way really. I don’t have any problem admitting that when 90% of people don’t because I have a unique angle on the market that keeps work coming in. I’m sure you know I’m not some big agency, I’m just a single member LLC, I hire people for a few things here and there but it’s really just me. Which allows me to do the same work as everyone else like we said, but since it’s just me I’m able to put more time into it, I put in more effort to make things I’m proud of, and I can always beat big agency prices because I don’t have the overhead they do of huge office buildings, employees etc. etc.

I mean let’s be real here man, I’m running my business out of my house!

Client : oh man I hear that! I do the exact same. It’s just me running the show here too, I actually really like working with businesses like that. I appreciate you being honest with me, guys give me the run around all the time trying to sell me shit thinking I’m stupid.

** client now understands the advantage of working with me, and knows I’m honest because I’m telling him the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH, including my shortcomings! Leaving NOTHING out. Fake it till you make it in a b2b environment is shit advice. People can smell it from a mile away. **

As the conversation went on.

He kept adding on work he wanted me to do, without me offering it to him.

He went from a $500 sale, to a $3,000 sale in less than 5 minutes. Kept adding on stuff over and over. And he was EXCITED. Because he finally found someone that wasn’t bullshitting him and made him feel like the valuable person he is instead of a checkbook.

#1. Value them and treat them as the smart individual they are. No trickery, no urgency, no pushy shit.

#2. HONESTY. Admit your shortcomings UPFRONT WITHOUT THEM ASKING. Acknowledge the value of your competitors because... they have value and it’s the truth.

#3. Unique angle. Present yourself as the trustworthy, honest person you are. And tell them what makes you different. How have you been successful? I’ve been successful because I’m a small fry with years of experience, which means I do the same shit as everyone else but can work for less since I’m running my business out of my bedroom next to a hibachi container and 2 empty corona bottles I had for dinner.
Excellent sharing thank you
 
This was a good post, people definitely value a real relatable person instead some one selling you something with. Fake smile and same old bs sale lines.
 
@Nash Commerce, Business is essentially building relationships. Buyers are much more intelligent than they are ever given credit for with respect to seeing through all the noise. I want to be able to sleep at night so honesty and transparency is the only road I'm interested in travelling as a buyer and a seller. Nice post and insight OP.
 
I remember when I was a door to door salesman selling vacuum cleaners all day working for commissions in Los Angeles way back.. I used to do it when the ladies husbands have gone to work.. You got to know your target and sell your pitch from there. Ever client is different..
 
I didn't started working with clients till now, but as soon as I will, this is a great advice I should keep.
 
Yep. Did roughly 15k profit last month.
Biggest deal this week was $4780.
So I guess it’s working.
I’m honest, I’m myself, I’m a person with quirks just like my clients. Not a robot.

I genuinely want to be friends with my clients, I care about them and their families, their profitability, the money they are spending. They feed their children with that.

I’ve been depressed and scared since I was 5 years old and God took me out of the shadow of the valley of death. I owe my life, I’m so grateful, Now my only purpose here is to be a servant to the people I come across. I make money to use as advertising dollars to serve more people and help my family.

I’m also 21 and skateboard a lot so that could be why I talk like that. But nonetheless.

Humanity, humility, and love
21 and 15k Profit. Well done!!:D:D
 
great post, thank you. I think we should sell something that we proudly make it and want to use it in the regular basis. :)
 
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