I did many (really, many) test with AI content. 90% failed

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Hi everyone, I am writing in the Black Hat SEO section because, in fact, it is black SEO.I have done many tests from September 2024 to today (March 2025), and I have failed 90%. AI content is almost impossible to rank on Google, that is a fact.
  1. First website made with Jasper in September 2024. Pure AI, simply copied and pasted on Wordpress. I published 1000 articles in 4 days, the site was receiving 130 visits per day from Google. Suddenly it was de-indexed and disappeared. After a month it resumed and today it has about 150 daily visits from Google per day.
  2. Second website made with mixed AI tools (Jasper, ChatGpt and others) in September 2024. Published 230 posts in 2 days, then I stopped. Started with 10-15 visitors daily and now 140-150 daily.
  3. October 2024 two websites did with Jasper. Tried to publish 100 posts daily. They got indexed, traffic started coming in and they suddenly died. Deindexed completely.
  4. November 2024 tried another website. Published 100 posts daily. It got indexed, traffic started coming in and suddenly died. Deindexed completely.
Now I thought, maybe I'm posting too many articles? Ok, let's decrease the frequency.
  1. Started two websites. I published 1-2 posts daily for one week, then 4-6 for others two week. Added external links, images, good SEO etc. Traffic started, got around 20-30 visitors from Google and then died. But they are not deindexed, only disappeared from serps. In practice the sites were penalized, rather than de-indexed.
Now I thought, maybe I'm doing it wrong to copy directly the posts from chatgpt and Jasper? I noticed that the contents created with artificial intelligence have a sort of "signature". (See my thread - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/w...e-texts-from-generators-like-chatgpt.1690044/).
  1. Started another website now, I'm doing it without copy and past, but I formatted all the text. I'm publishing 30-50 posts daily, let's see, but I'm not very confident.

The really funny thing is that I have some websites created manually, with text written by me at 100% (or translated by a human at 100%) and on originality.ai I have 100% human text. AI text (even with magnificent and articulated prompts) always comes out at 100%. How is it possible that even incredibly well written sentences are detected? Don't tell me that originality.ai is not reliable, because I have websites entirely written by me that come out human, while those with AI come out 100% AI. Same thing on gptzero and zerogpt.

Suggestions on how to rank chatgpt text without it being AI? Tips? I've done dozens of tests, only 2 were successful (and I think it was a coincidence)
 
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Maybe test WordAI's feature "Avoid AI detection"?
 
jyciap11 said:
Hi everyone, I am writing in the Black Hat SEO section because, in fact, it is black SEO.I have done many tests from September 2024 to today (March 2025), and I have failed 90%. AI content is almost impossible to rank on Google, that is a fact.
  1. First website made with Jasper in September 2024. Pure AI, simply copied and pasted on Wordpress. I published 1000 articles in 4 days, the site was receiving 130 visits per day from Google. Suddenly it was de-indexed and disappeared. After a month it resumed and today it has about 150 daily visits from Google per day.
  2. Second website made with mixed AI tools (Jasper, ChatGpt and others) in September 2024. Published 230 posts in 2 days, then I stopped. Started with 10-15 visitors daily and now 140-150 daily.
  3. October 2024 two websites did with Jasper. Tried to publish 100 posts daily. They got indexed, traffic started coming in and they suddenly died. Deindexed completely.
  4. November 2024 tried another website. Published 100 posts daily. It got indexed, traffic started coming in and suddenly died. Deindexed completely.
Now I thought, maybe I'm posting too many articles? Ok, let's decrease the frequency.
  1. Started two websites. I published 1-2 posts daily for one week, then 4-6 for others two week. Added external links, images, good SEO etc. Traffic started, got around 20-30 visitors from Google and then died. But they are not deindexed, only disappeared from serps. In practice the sites were penalized, rather than de-indexed.
Now I thought, maybe I'm doing it wrong to copy directly the posts from chatgpt and Jasper? I noticed that the contents created with artificial intelligence have a sort of "signature". (See my thread - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/w...e-texts-from-generators-like-chatgpt.1690044/).
  1. Started another website now, I'm doing it without copy and past, but I formatted all the text. I'm publishing 30-50 posts daily, let's see, but I'm not very confident.

The really funny thing is that I have some websites created manually, with text written by me at 100% (or translated by a human at 100%) and on originality.ai I have 100% human text. AI text (even with magnificent and articulated prompts) always comes out at 100%. How is it possible that even incredibly well written sentences are detected? Don't tell me that originality.ai is not reliable, because I have websites entirely written by me that come out human, while those with AI come out 100% AI. Same thing on gptzero and zerogpt.

Suggestions on how to rank chatgpt text without it being AI? Tips? I've done dozens of tests, only 2 were successful (and I think it was a coincidence)
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AI content gets deindexed on google pretty fast, you need to edit it... :)
 
jyciap11 said:
Now I thought, maybe I'm doing it wrong to copy directly the posts from chatgpt and Jasper? I noticed that the contents created with artificial intelligence have a sort of "signature". (See my thread - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/w...e-texts-from-generators-like-chatgpt.1690044/).
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Use plain text data straight from the API if possible, format it programmatically if needed later.

jyciap11 said:
The really funny thing is that I have some websites created manually, with text written by me at 100% (or translated by a human at 100%) and on originality.ai I have 100% human text. AI text (even with magnificent and articulated prompts) always comes out at 100%. How is it possible that even incredibly well written sentences are detected? Don't tell me that originality.ai is not reliable, because I have websites entirely written by me that come out human, while those with AI come out 100% AI. Same thing on gptzero and zerogpt.
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My advice is to stay away from AI detectors. They're an unnecessary step, especially if you're producing content at scale.

jyciap11 said:
Suggestions on how to rank chatgpt text without it being AI? Tips? I've done dozens of tests, only 2 were successful (and I think it was a coincidence)
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Put some work into the Wordpress installation that the content is going on - I'm pretty sure barebones GeneratePress sites filled with AI generated articles is a footprint. Also, ask your AI of choice to write using words that a high-school graduate would understand, or limit them in some other way (no words over 3 syllables etc). There are also many other sources out there other than chatGPT/OpenAI - for example I have many indexed sites full of Mistral-generated content, hell still even one using the old GPT-J model from years ago with thousands of pages still indexed.
 
Scaling too fast (100+ posts/day) raises red flags, especially on new domains. Your best shot is slowing down, mixing AI with human editing, and focusing on entity-based SEO. Use NLP tools to refine content, add expert opinions, and build real topical clusters. AI is a tool, not the whole strategy.
 
Write Seo-friendly and readable content, you will achieved success.
 
besides formating the text I wil recomend you to check you are not copying and pating duplicate content, remember AI doesn't create content like magic it use content that is already in the internet the same content that was used to be trained, most of the time is not oohh AI content is because you are copying and pasting duplicated content from other websites, the same happen with prompts what makes your prompt unique, the same result you had with the prompt the same result I will have again duplicate content, something else you can check and keep in mind.
 
Steptoe said:
for example I have many indexed sites full of Mistral-generated content, hell still even one using the old GPT-J model from years ago with thousands of pages still indexed.
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Mistral and o1 with links to authority sites are working great.
 
jyciap11 said:
Can you explain in details?
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This is the current indexation status of a site with 100% pure Mistral AI content generated with open-mixtral-8x7b and open-mixtral-8x22b.
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No manual edits have been made on any of these articles with approx. 500 words length, most are even without a post image or tags. Indexation grows continously. I am not using any indexer but just submit the sitemap to GSC & Bing.

The same with other sites:
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jyciap11 said:
Hi everyone, I am writing in the Black Hat SEO section because, in fact, it is black SEO.I have done many tests from September 2024 to today (March 2025), and I have failed 90%. AI content is almost impossible to rank on Google, that is a fact.
  1. First website made with Jasper in September 2024. Pure AI, simply copied and pasted on Wordpress. I published 1000 articles in 4 days, the site was receiving 130 visits per day from Google. Suddenly it was de-indexed and disappeared. After a month it resumed and today it has about 150 daily visits from Google per day.
  2. Second website made with mixed AI tools (Jasper, ChatGpt and others) in September 2024. Published 230 posts in 2 days, then I stopped. Started with 10-15 visitors daily and now 140-150 daily.
  3. October 2024 two websites did with Jasper. Tried to publish 100 posts daily. They got indexed, traffic started coming in and they suddenly died. Deindexed completely.
  4. November 2024 tried another website. Published 100 posts daily. It got indexed, traffic started coming in and suddenly died. Deindexed completely.
Now I thought, maybe I'm posting too many articles? Ok, let's decrease the frequency.
  1. Started two websites. I published 1-2 posts daily for one week, then 4-6 for others two week. Added external links, images, good SEO etc. Traffic started, got around 20-30 visitors from Google and then died. But they are not deindexed, only disappeared from serps. In practice the sites were penalized, rather than de-indexed.
Now I thought, maybe I'm doing it wrong to copy directly the posts from chatgpt and Jasper? I noticed that the contents created with artificial intelligence have a sort of "signature". (See my thread - https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/warning-dont-copy-and-paste-texts-from-generators-like-chatgpt.1690044/).
  1. Started another website now, I'm doing it without copy and past, but I formatted all the text. I'm publishing 30-50 posts daily, let's see, but I'm not very confident.

The really funny thing is that I have some websites created manually, with text written by me at 100% (or translated by a human at 100%) and on originality.ai I have 100% human text. AI text (even with magnificent and articulated prompts) always comes out at 100%. How is it possible that even incredibly well written sentences are detected? Don't tell me that originality.ai is not reliable, because I have websites entirely written by me that come out human, while those with AI come out 100% AI. Same thing on gptzero and zerogpt.

Suggestions on how to rank chatgpt text without it being AI? Tips? I've done dozens of tests, only 2 were successful (and I think it was a coincidence)
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If you want to bypass these detectors, here are some tips that worked in tests:Adds human errors and variations Changes punctuation in a natural way (e.g. adds a few dashes, exclamation marks, ellipses).Purposely introduce minor typos or repetitions.Rewrite certain passages with shorter or chopped sentences, as a human would.
 
Fiducia said:
This is the current indexation status of a site with 100% pure Mistral AI content generated with open-mixtral-8x7b and open-mixtral-8x22b.
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No manual edits have been made on any of these articles with approx. 500 words length, most are even without a post image or tags. Indexation grows continously. I am not using any indexer but just submit the sitemap to GSC & Bing.

The same with other sites:
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I don't think indexing is a big issue. The issue is traffic for these types of articles. Much much traffic are you getting for your sites?
 
Fiducia said:
This is the current indexation status of a site with 100% pure Mistral AI content generated with open-mixtral-8x7b and open-mixtral-8x22b.
View attachment 427981
No manual edits have been made on any of these articles with approx. 500 words length, most are even without a post image or tags. Indexation grows continously. I am not using any indexer but just submit the sitemap to GSC & Bing.

The same with other sites:
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I always used openai.
Mistral it’s free? I saw that you publish many posts with AI in a short time without the index issue..
 
Actually that's the trigger for me to develop a tool that I am working on to create articles that are as much as natural and human written like possible. I would like to know if you are interested in doing a case study with my tool which is I am right now offering as beta testing. This way I too can get to know the real world unbiased value of the content generated using it.
 
jyciap11 said:
I always used openai.
Mistral it’s free? I saw that you publish many posts with AI in a short time without the index issue..
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There is a free tier: https://help.mistral.ai/en/articles/225174-what-are-the-limits-of-the-free-tier

I am not using it nor would I do in a production environment. Tokens are so cheap, the models need to be developed, trained and the platform operated. And I want to own the content I create and not to be used for training purposes.
 
I have always used ChatGPT for translation, but only for translation. It will not be deindexed, but the ranking will constantly change.
 
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