I am tired...

Why do everyone wants to start 100 businesses and finish not even a single one? False dopamine thinking they're going rich.

Just focus on a single skill/business. Try. Try and Try.

Try to get the primary income by going to a job day to day. I read that you're rejected by every company in your domain.

Just get a job. I understand that I can be very hard, life it's not fair. Some are born in rich families, others in super broke. This is called capitalism.

In order to keep your moral values you cannot sell the false dreams that people said below, if you don't care about your moral values you can sell e-books or be a Andrew Tate wannabe.

I am trying to get money through Internet since 2018-2019 doing every shit that I saw on the internet. Illegal or Not.

Just don't give up man, I believe that's a difficult road. Get a job and try to get little money through side-hustles. Then work on side-hustles until they become primary income.

I Hope that you don't lose your hopes!

Matheus Moreira said:

Sadly it can even take years to start getting results...

Not many people can or are willing to live without a paycheck for so long.

Dont even count the depressive feeling of working your ass off for 0 returns. 99% just give up sooner or later.

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Yeah, it can take even a year. I wouldn't say years. You should see some results after a year at least to know you are on the right path. However it may take years to be able to make a living and not just pay bills. Most people quit before they get to the point of making a living, and so they get depress.

Stupid_Bastard said:

You forgot the best method to earn easy money, mate
I'm sure that you have enough knowledge, you've probably read tons of methods and ideas
Just create a course teaching stuff for people, be the guy who is teaching people to earn money instead of being the guy who is learning
Those guys who are supposedly earning also were in your position...now they are selling courses to teach naive people how to earn money
In one year you can be the guy buying Lambo videos on Fiverr to promote your course

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There are several things in what you wrote that I want to comment on.

First of all, who would buy what I know how to do? I mean, I know how to make WordPress sites, write blog articles, create blogs, make videos for YouTube, TikTok, IG, I know how dropshipping works, I can make Shopify stores, I’ve had offers on Fiverr, on freelance platforms, etc., but all that information is available for free on the Internet in every language. Who would buy a course to learn what I know how to do? No one. And how long would that course last before it’s available for free on the hundreds of forums where all kinds of courses are shared for free? So, it’s not that simple. At least, not for me.

Secondly, the last thing I want to do in life is deceive anyone by selling them a useless course that’s good for nothing, like 99% of the courses available on the Internet. I’ve hated those creators of worthless courses so much that I could never become one of them. If I were to sell a course, I would sell something that truly works, something that genuinely provides value. My sense of ethics doesn’t allow me to become just another snake oil salesman, like the hundreds or thousands of them on the Internet. I’m one of those people who believe you can make money honestly without deceiving anyone.

Mike Z said:

Find something thats already selling and middle it. Best way to get in?

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I’ve worked with affiliate marketing, which in a way involves what you’re mentioning. However, I haven’t had any success there.

UnusualSubstance said:

This thread by @splishsplash is pure diamonds matey.

I'd highly recommend you read through it. <3.

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Thank you for the recommendation. I’ll read it.

Kylian Ax Al said:

I don't think the internet is an instant savior. I've been at a point where I've asked friends and family for jobs.

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I’ve never seen the Internet as an “instant savior.” In fact, I’ve been working on the Internet much longer than many people here have been alive.

DarkerAds said:

if you are making money with what you are doing, simply find a way to scale.

that's the way to make it online

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If only it were as simple as it sounds.

pennyweight said:

Hi Astro,
If it's okay and fine I would like to talk with you in person.
I would love to see if I can help you.

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Thank you for your interest in helping.

DozeX said:

Yeah, we understand you've been here since February 7, 2014. I've been here since 2017. When I become successful, I will leave this place and never come back.

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I wish you the best of luck.

MoonStarz said:

Don't worry, vent out is good for your mental health, we all reach that point sometimes step out for a moment relax and some ideas might come to you, hoe you are doing well.

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Thank you for your comment and your good wishes.

Oreilly said:

Don't give up to make more money and scale a working method eventually. Good luck and I pray for your strength!

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Thank you for your comment and your good wishes.

Elusive Proxy said:

You have free will, you can change your life whenever you want to.

Take a step back.

Why are you fixated on making money online?

Yes you are 52, but what's stopping you from starting a local service business?

Why not cut grass?

There's so many options and possibilities, don't discount them because of your age or because you desire to make money online.

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In the USA, Europe, or Australia, you can get rich by cutting grass. In my country, cutting grass would probably earn me less than what I make today. Now, I understand that cutting grass is just an example, but it’s not as simple as it seems.

Enchant said:

Making Money Online is harder than getting a 9-5 job. I'm tired of telling people this. Most people are better off getting a job and working their 9-5. This online stuff is not for the weak, you can go months working on a project with no money and the 10th month, stuff finally takes off and you start earning a living. But most people lack patience and keep jumping from one thing to the next before they get anything to work and wonder why it doesn't work for them. I think most should just work a job and try to make money online on the side.

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I’ve had online projects that I’ve dedicated not 10 months to, but 30 or more months, with no success at all. Only once, between 2014 and 2017, was I successful with a YouTube channel that reached over 180,000 subscribers (or 280,000, I don’t quite remember), and without ever having committed any violations, one day, YouTube just shut it down. Since then, I haven’t been able to find success on the Internet again.

wiggleit said:

Same, man... same...

I feel limited by my lack of knowledge on certain technical aspects. Ideas are plentiful but the learning curve in order to be able to implement them becomes a deterrent.

I believe that in cases like this partnering up with other people that find themselves in the same position would be the best option.
That way there's an exchange of ideas and information, and the mutual support would help every party involved reach everyone's goals.

...but finding reliable and trustworthy people to partner with is pretty hard.

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And I'm sure there are many more of us in this situation.

Matheus Moreira said:

Sadly it can even take years to start getting results...

Not many people can or are willing to live without a paycheck for so long.

Dont even count the depressive feeling of working your ass off for 0 returns. 99% just give up sooner or later.

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Agree with you.

astro2014 said:

I’ve had online projects that I’ve dedicated not 10 months to, but 30 or more months, with no success at all. Only once, between 2014 and 2017, was I successful with a YouTube channel that reached over 180,000 subscribers (or 280,000, I don’t quite remember), and without ever having committed any violations, one day, YouTube just shut it down. Since then, I haven’t been able to find success on the Internet again.

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If you still want to continue your journey, I suggest you go with Youtube again but this time you want to go the affiliate marketing way. Find one affiliate program and create content around that program and do nothing else. Just stick to this, collect emails in this niche and promote the program to your email subscribers. I am sure you will see success if you can create good content.

If it's not working out for you, try something offline. Something that is cheap to start, like a small food stall or something.

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If it's not working out for you, try something offline. Something that is cheap to start, like a small food stall or something.

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Exactly, I don't know why people think everything has to be online. I'm taking my online income to invest into real estate. Because who knows how long this will last. Offline business is easier to start and get off the ground than a online business, these people thing it's the opposite because of these fake dreams people are selling.

I understand this feeling as I have suffered from this myself. I found making money online is incredibly hard especially from a 3rd world country that I live in. So far, I have only achieved little success but I am determined to scale in the next 2 years if everything stays same way as it is today.

What's the average monthly income needed to live comfortably in your country and how much is considered rich?

1Philippines said:

In order to keep your moral values you cannot sell the false dreams that people said below,

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In one of my answers I talk about just this.

1Philippines said:

I Hope that you don't lose your hopes!

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Thank you for your good wishes.

Enchant said:

Exactly, I don't know why people think everything has to be online. I'm taking my online income to invest into real estate. Because who knows how long this will last. Offline business is easier to start and get off the ground than a online business, these people thing it's the opposite because of these fake dreams people are selling.

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I will never understand why people assume things that aren't true. I have owned physical businesses. At one time, I had an importing company that dealt with oils for heavy machinery. I have worked as an employee for companies. On another occasion, I exported tobacco to a neighboring country. In other words, anyone who thinks that I'm just waiting for money to fall from the sky thanks to the Internet is completely mistaken. The reality is that I live in a country where, at 30 years old, you're already considered too old to work. Additionally, it's a country where starting a business and growing it is no easy task. So, since I can't afford to starve, and I have obligations and commitments to fulfill, many years ago, I turned to the Internet, hoping to build a stable economic and financial life for myself, as many others have done. The big problem is that things don't always go as expected, and there's something in life called "bankruptcy," which only those who have experienced it truly understand. In my life, I've gone bankrupt three times. How many times have you gone bankrupt?

imnew said:

I understand this feeling as I have suffered from this myself. I found making money online is incredibly hard especially from a 3rd world country that I live in. So far, I have only achieved little success but I am determined to scale in the next 2 years if everything stays same way as it is today.

What's the average monthly income needed to live comfortably in your country and how much is considered rich?

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To live a comfortable life, I need at least $2,500 a month. To be rich, you need to earn at least $10K a month. However, my interest is not in being rich. My interest is simply to live peacefully. Nothing more. Although, in this world, living peacefully might be a utopia.

astro2014 said:

To live a comfortable life, I need at least $2,500 a month. To be rich, you need to earn at least $10K a month. However, my interest is not in being rich. My interest is simply to live peacefully. Nothing more. Although, in this world, living peacefully might be a utopia.

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What Skills do you have, I'd love to guide you on the right path but without actual skills. I can't, I do understand where you are coming from and my bad if you were offended by my other response. I wasn't speaking about your situation in general, but most people that I see come online wanting to make money.

astro2014 said:

If only it were as simple as it sounds.

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scale wide or high
plenty of ways to go

Yeah, I think the days of making easy money on the internet are long gone. Everything is saturated, too many people competing for too few resources. Similar situation offline as well in many countries.

Four years ago, I quit my job at the university and started a business, in artificial intelligence. I was 21 at the time.

Three years ago, I lost my business and was $30,000 in debt. For me who could only make $1,000 a month, that was a big, big amount! I had to get a new job.

Two years ago, my career started to decline and I started to get tired of working.

A year ago, I started redoing Google Threshold, and damn it, I'm always one step behind, and when I figured out the rules, everything changed, Google changed their policy.

Five months ago, I started looking at myself and I got back into it; I'm now making more money per month than I lost in the year before.

I wish I could send you a picture to show you, I moved my bed under my office work, instead of sitting in a chair and working, I just sit on my bed and work and sleep when I'm tired. Wake up and work.

Every day of my life was like a world war, no weekends, no parties, no drinking (which would affect the next day's work).

When you feel lost, go to the market forums and you will always find good ways to make money.

Imitate - surpass - innovate

astro2014 said:

Truth be told, I'm tired of struggling with the internet to try to make a living.

I don't want any more of this and yet I can't let go of this because it's the only thing that gives me some money to live on.

Because of my age (52), in my Country I don't get hired by any company anymore, so the thought of getting a stable job is not in my possibilities.

I'm not able to earn enough money on the Internet to have a decent life.

I don't want any more of this, I don't want to struggle any more trying things on the Internet with which in the end I don't get any results.

I'm tired of creating Youtube channels, writing blogs, creating websites, etc, and seeing that I only earn miserable pennies with that.

It's been many years of my life struggling with this, reading tutorials of all kinds, following “magic tips” that are nothing more than false promises that are never fulfilled.

The “funniest” of all is that while some of us struggle to scrape a few cents from the Internet, there are others who no longer know what to do with all the money they earn. Life is anything but fair and equitable.

I would give anything to get out of this nightmare.

PS: I apologize for my broken English and I'm sorry if anyone doesn't like this message, but I had to get it off my chest.

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astro2014 said:

There are several things in what you wrote that I want to comment on.

First of all, who would buy what I know how to do? I mean, I know how to make WordPress sites, write blog articles, create blogs, make videos for YouTube, TikTok, IG, I know how dropshipping works, I can make Shopify stores, I’ve had offers on Fiverr, on freelance platforms, etc., but all that information is available for free on the Internet in every language. Who would buy a course to learn what I know how to do? No one. And how long would that course last before it’s available for free on the hundreds of forums where all kinds of courses are shared for free? So, it’s not that simple. At least, not for me.

Secondly, the last thing I want to do in life is deceive anyone by selling them a useless course that’s good for nothing, like 99% of the courses available on the Internet. I’ve hated those creators of worthless courses so much that I could never become one of them. If I were to sell a course, I would sell something that truly works, something that genuinely provides value. My sense of ethics doesn’t allow me to become just another snake oil salesman, like the hundreds or thousands of them on the Internet. I’m one of those people who believe you can make money honestly without deceiving anyone.

I’ve worked with affiliate marketing, which in a way involves what you’re mentioning. However, I haven’t had any success there.

Thank you for the recommendation. I’ll read it.

I’ve never seen the Internet as an “instant savior.” In fact, I’ve been working on the Internet much longer than many people here have been alive.

If only it were as simple as it sounds.

Thank you for your interest in helping.

I wish you the best of luck.

Thank you for your comment and your good wishes.

Thank you for your comment and your good wishes.

In the USA, Europe, or Australia, you can get rich by cutting grass. In my country, cutting grass would probably earn me less than what I make today. Now, I understand that cutting grass is just an example, but it’s not as simple as it seems.

I’ve had online projects that I’ve dedicated not 10 months to, but 30 or more months, with no success at all. Only once, between 2014 and 2017, was I successful with a YouTube channel that reached over 180,000 subscribers (or 280,000, I don’t quite remember), and without ever having committed any violations, one day, YouTube just shut it down. Since then, I haven’t been able to find success on the Internet again.

And I'm sure there are many more of us in this situation.

Agree with you.

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Typical youtube behaviour, lol. The ban struggle is real. Understandable when spamming/blackhat, but I see 'normal' creators complaining, some people even had their own voices copy claimed by record companies lol. You get copy strikes or claims all the fuckin time and 0 info on it here. Too many copy strikes at once - perma ban on yt.

Enchant said:

If you still want to continue your journey, I suggest you go with Youtube again but this time you want to go the affiliate marketing way. Find one affiliate program and create content around that program and do nothing else. Just stick to this, collect emails in this niche and promote the program to your email subscribers. I am sure you will see success if you can create good content.

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Any courses/resources you'd recommend for doing this model? Thanks!

ryuchi said:

Any courses/resources you'd recommend for doing this model? Thanks!

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I really got nth specific to recommend, I'm just speaking from experience with what I've done. But I'm sure you could implement it and learn from your experience.

“Never give up, for that is just the place and time that the tide will turn.” ―Harriet Beecher Stowe

astro2014 said:

First of all, who would buy what I know how to do? I mean, I know how to make WordPress sites, write blog articles, create blogs, make videos for YouTube, TikTok, IG, I know how dropshipping works, I can make Shopify stores, I’ve had offers on Fiverr, on freelance platforms, etc., but all that information is available for free on the Internet in every language. Who would buy a course to learn what I know how to do? No one. And how long would that course last before it’s available for free on the hundreds of forums where all kinds of courses are shared for free? So, it’s not that simple. At least, not for me.

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This pretty much sums why you are where you are. The problem is one of negativity and not seeing possibilities.

BTW if you look at my join date I have at this game for a long time on and off and a failure too in that the money I have made is very minimal. But I am going to put that right because my mindset has shifted and I am now go for it. In the past I looked at it as a one man do everything myself small time hobby. But I realize you got to look at it as a proper business just like you would if you were to open a retail store.