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I am getting mad. Hard work destroyed in a day by an idiot

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by balotz, Apr 25, 2013.

  1. balotz

    balotz Junior Member

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    here's my story.
    6 months ago i started a seo campaign for one of my clients. Did all hard work and land #2 on google. Yesterday my ranking drop, the site dissapeared (#453). Had good backlink structure, not many bls, most of them was made manualy. In last 2 weeks i have noticed big serp improvement by a website owned by a large offline bussines. I suspect that they did it (SEO company they hired). WM tools say unnatural link building. And after checked blnks saw 7250 shitty aa blog coments with the same anchor. What to do? What to say to the client? How to get back. At least I want revange. >This is a war. Any help would be great. My tools are SB and GSA. Thank you guys
     
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    This is why you do not promote a local business like an IM business.
     
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    Your client is not paying you to get revenge but to rank his website.

    Diversify the anchor text and lower percentage of those links and anchor text in the total amount of backlinks.

    Try to make a create a constant velocity for the link building process....

    Do not make things like you have nothing to loose because is possible to get back.
     
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    EddieC123 Regular Member

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    Use the link disavow tool, and back it up with a post on the Google support forum that this is negative SEO. If you're lucky you'll get a manual review & regain your rankings - I know three people that have done this but only one has regained their original rankings.
     
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    Revenge doesn't solve anything, it's just a waste of time. Keep building links and turn it over again, use disavow tool and keep working and your client will be back asap. :)
     
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    Wouldn't blame you for wanting revenge, but its probably best to concentrate on your client, since this is where your money is and spending money in a "war" is only leaving you out of pocket.
     
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    1. Check Google Sandbox Tool & use disallow tool to make sure you note google links you don't want to see.
    2. This dude might get you down by getting negative SEO on your website, so can you do too.
     
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    It`s the best time to use the disavow tool. Get the links reported, try to continue the link building and hope for the best. Also prepaire another domain to do a redirect if things go really bad.
     
  11. RealEcon

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    I dont think they will. Google wants this. It allows authority sites to rank great, and gives a little juice here and there when people's content gets quoted or scraped without attribution.

    Plus it is a really hard metric for SEO software like Majestic, Hrefs and SEOspyglass to measure. Keeps the SEO community confused about their rankings really well, like what we've seen since Penguin last year.
     
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    Disavow dude, it's your best response to negative seo
     
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    Yes what all the others said but I'd still toss $20 at Fiverr for some negative SEO campaigns to the competitor. Just would make me sleep better at night.

    There should be cause and effect for actions, I'd make the competitor well aware that what he did anyone can do. Some lessons are best learned with a boot in the ass.

    JMHO
     
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    Quote for truth.
     
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    This is where google sucks and u can't do a thing about it
    You spend so much of time and money to rank ur site by pure white hat methods but one fine day some scum bag comes over and blasts ur sites with porn links or some spam links and u get ur site penalised
    Google truly sucks here !
    They need to find some alternative here like the webmaster should have a backend where he can approve sites linking to his sites etc. This way the webmaster will be solely repsonsible and no other guy can spam ur site
    But google wont do this as it takes hell lot of resources and need tons of $ to invest
     
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    First Step is to get your Client back..That can be done with Diversify Links Campaigns. Plus Most manual. add a Juice like Sape for 2nd Tier or if you are smart you can use sape for 1st Tier..
    2nd Step to take Revenge..!!Simple..Pay someone to Blast his site on like 100k Porn Adult or Scrapebox Etc..whatever..and get those links indexed So you can get your Revenge..But be smart..first get your client Up again..it will not be easy..
     
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    than kyou guys for advice. still don't know what to do, right now i am thinking on revange only, this killed my spirit, this sucks. tomorrow i will talk to my client, and it will be hard to explain, he do not understand seo well, he only knows if he has 120 visits, he make good money, and now there are allmost no visits, and he pays me to get good serp rankings. btw another competitor is out
     
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    You people have lost your mind. For pete's sake you cant go to a customer and say "By the way, your site is fucked, not really my fault, but you have to get another name for your business site."".

    The simple fact is that you better figure out what to tell your client, and what steps top do right now.

    I am not sure we have heard the whole story, you claim to have done only a little link building but mention you have SB and GSA. (but I digress)

    Quit building links, that is what messed you up to begin with (at least in the manner you think link building is done).

    Anyway.

    First do the disavow tool and get rid of all the spammy links, be sure to get the spammy ones you built too.

    Next go to Google places and build a profile for the customer. This profile will need to be used everywhere you list this business, and you need to use exactly the same information in this profile in every local business directory that you list with. List the business with Google , and do not leave anything unfilled. If they have room for 30 pictures, 22 videos, 12 pod casts, give them it.

    Then do Yahoo/Bing.

    Use exactly the same pictures with exactly the same tags and everything. Consistency across all listings is vital.

    Do not give me that crap about directory listings not having value, this is local and local is different. And do not go spam hell out of website listing directories either, I am talking about the local business directories like Local,com, Manta, Yelp, super pages, ans such and so on. Find as many as you can and submit all the information manually, and do not vary a word of the profile, except when you add extra information, even then add all the standard information, pics and videos first, so the basic profile is always present.

    Do a specific search to find directories that list people in your business. Go to and join all of these and get listings there. Join communities online that someone from this business would join and list your company anywhere that is related to your business versicle.

    Search out also business communities in your local area or a state and do the same with them. These things build citations.

    Get some one who really knows on page SEO, and have them optimize the home page and all core service or product pages. Do not skip this, it is more important than you think.

    Create the usual social accounts, and use them FOR business. Set up Google alerts that apply to the business and city and share these things in your social media.

    Keep the fact that you want to save the Whales or that Obama should be made king to yourself, these accounts are for business. Don't over share. Read that again, its even more important that the onpage. Even one innocuous political liberal or conservative comment comment will piss off 40 % of the people who read it because they are not that party.. Keep that crap at home.

    In your social media you approach the world with your hat in your hand, with humility and respect, and modestly say "I am the best choice for you in the world for you for what you want done, and if you can afford me, I can work magic for your business."

    Subscribe to HARO, blogger link up, Pitchrate and the such and watch for something to come along that you can pitch for this customer. Have a few pitches ready to go. Watch for chances to get him free publicity. As soon as this happens, put out a press release telling that the customer was highlighted on this website, or that tv show, or magazine.

    Instead of using free press release services, pay to have this press release submitted to news feeds and aggregators as opposed to press release websites. Press releases are quickly turning into link farms, and I see no value the in the long run

    Take this press release and write a story about the business appearance on the whatever, and send it to every small newspaper in your community, every radio station, every tv station, and and any newsletters that you can find in your community.

    Have a Piece of original software created, say a calculator to figure the cost of new carpet if yo are a carpet guy, and build a PAD submission for it and give it away free online from the Software directories on the Internet. It must be their software, so buy it for that purpose.

    That's all you get for free.

    The best revenge you can do is stuffing that website right back up your competitors ass and into the top spot again. Otherwise, he won AND he gets to rent space in YOUR head.
     
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