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I am confused! Google Rankings!!!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ePrime, Nov 29, 2015.

  1. ePrime

    ePrime Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I have a site that ranks #4 on Google SERP. My site is better than the first three results in everyway;my site has better backlinks, my site provides better information and all the metrics of my site are better than that of the first 3 results but no matter what I try, my ranking doesn't improve.

    Metrics of my page:
    TF - 33
    CF - 34
    Unique RD - 51
    PA - 32
    DA - 18
    PR - N/A
    G+ - 1.2K

    Metrics of the first 3 results:

    #1
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    TF - 17
    CF - 22
    Unique RD - 10
    PA - 23
    DA - 68
    PR - 1
    G+ - 13

    #2
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    TF - 13
    CF - 22
    Unique RD - 3
    PA - 25
    DA - 46
    PR - N/A
    G+ - 2

    #3
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    TF - 0
    CF - 15
    Unique RD - 3
    PA - 29
    DA - 17
    PR - N/A
    G+ - 365

    None of these sites are using PBNs or anything; the first site has hidden trackback links, the second site has a few profile links and comment spam links and the third website has comment, profile, signature and a few contextual links from article sites. My site has PBN links, profile links, etc... No spam...perfect anchor diversity... still I'm not able to outrank those three sites.

    I'll appreciate if anyone helps.
     
  2. bojan92

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    maybe you could be patient and I believe after 2 or 3 days, your site shall rise hire. all the best
     
  3. cspro01

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    Make some web 2.0 links maybe it will help to out rank your competitors
     
  4. ch2arn2ain1

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    Be pacien, everything at the end cames
     
  5. ePrime

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    I've already built a bunch of Web 2.0s, I've built almost all type of links for this site.

    I don't think anything is gonna happen in 2 or 3 days, my site is stuck there for more than 3 last months.
     
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    You do that none of those metrics mean anything to Google right?
    Trust factor etc. Google doesn't use them or care about them particularly.
    They are at best a rough guide to a small percentage of the factors Google might take into consideration - might.

    Links still number one, and Google can take ages to sort out citation quantity from trust, authority and relevance quality.
    It's common for sites with a shit load of links with no quality to rank for weeks, months even years ahead of sites with great quality metrics.

    Eventually the quality normally wins out... normally - not always. And sometimes the spam linked site gets a Google slap - sometimes

    That's how churn-n-burn SEO works.

    If any numb nuts has told you that churn and burn doesn't work any more, and can't win in strong niches beating even authority sites in some cases - they don't know what they are talking about..
    C&B is riskier for sure (though no technique is risk free) but it can, and does win over and over again.
    Without knowing you or your site or competition like everyone else here we can only guess at the real answer.
    One thing is for sure though. To win at SEO isn't as simple as "pick the 6 metrics that everyone likes at the moment and win in them... job done" The search engines quite deliberately make it a lot more complex and nuanced than that.
    Best advice (same as everyone else here really) Patience.

    Good luck. You do have decent metrics and might well do better in the medium and long term. No guarantees though. :)
     
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    Metrics are shit. If it ranks higher than you, then it has better backlinks.
     
  8. bartosimpsonio

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    In several niches the correlation between top advertisers and top rankings is 100%
     
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    yeah backlinks will be your key... build high quality links and you can see your ranking increase easely!
     
  10. ePrime

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    Thanks for your detailed reply. Yeah, I do know that these metrics men nothing to Google but they do give an idea.

    Nope, I can assure you that I've better backlinks. I've gone through each and every backlinks of my competition and my site (yup, using multiple tools - Ahrefs, OSE, Majestic, SEMRush)

    Thanks. I forgot to add that those 3 sites are using Adwords and I'm not. And, two of the sites are top advertisers for my keyword.
     
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    bartosimpsonio Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Google will deny this forever, but as I said the correlation is just too great between Adwords positions and organic ranking. Others do favor you if you're a big spender, why wouldn't Google?
     
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    On site wise? User engagement wise?