First of all do you beleive everything that you read? I know i sure dont, especially on web forums ( even private ones) I have been using SSEC for quite sometime now, and im in a more unique situation than most since i have almost unlimited servers and domains at my disposal. I have also been doing SEO and Blackhat work for quite a few years, and my experiences with SSEC is the total opposite of all the rest. I havent had a single banning, i use unique templates with no footprints, my keyword research is all fresh, and SSEC is providing me with a TON of Traffic. I also use the traffic in a diferent way then most others do. Is it for everyone, hell no. Is it for people who want to be able to load up a domain list, templates, keyword files, and setup cron jobs to automate a drip feed sites on auto pilot hell YES!! Its the closest to a all in one blackhat system i have yet to see, and i make money off of it day in and day out. Banning usually happen because people are too lazy to remove footprints, or do stupid stuff. I still have stuff thats been running for years, and never banned. It really comes down to how through you are making sure the SE's dont see a pattern on your stuff. Web forums are like the US news, great for entertainment, but usually filled with useless dribble and a few specs of good info.