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How To Write Super Spun Articles In The Most Effective Way

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by moonlighsunligh, Apr 4, 2012.

  1. moonlighsunligh

    moonlighsunligh Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I have recently started to write my own content. I have already created a super spun article on a general topic. I have rewritten each sentence at least 10 times. After that i have spun it on word/phrase level. I got pretty good and extremely unique article. But still it wouldn't pass human review because rewrites look pretty similar to each other for human eye. Keep in mind i use these article just for TIER1 backlinking. I do not use them on my money sites.


    • What is the most effective way to create superspun article that is grammatically correct, readable and even looks unique to human eye?
    • Is it even possible to do and if not, what is the next best thing i can do?
    • What kind of topic for a articles should i choose to be able to make most spins. I have seen that even articlebuilder articles which contains just tips on various topics, still need more 30 words (3-5 sentences) to explain each tip. So the smallest part of sentence that says a complete though, so it can be used independently, is 3 sentences or 30 words. Is there any way to shorten it to just 1 sentence?
     
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  3. moonlighsunligh

    moonlighsunligh Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I did but i do not how is it better than the best spinner, except for paragraph order rearanging.

    Is there any other tool, that can re-arange paragraphs this way, so i can save 30$ a month for ubbertoolz
     
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    You need to change the grammatical structure of the sentence without greatly altering it's meaning.
     
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    moonlighsunligh Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I do that. It is different but would it make sense if each sentence inside article is totaly independent.

    Ubertoolz uses 3-6 sentences paragraphs as the smallest independent part of an article.
     
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    If you're doing 10 sentence rewrites with word and phrases I don't see why the articles are not acceptable to you. This combination will create 1000's of unique articles. Unless you are posting the articles repeatedly on the same site I don't see what the issue is. If you are spreading the articles across a ton of tier 1's does it matter if they may 'read' the same?

    I mean, how many times can you write a 500 word article on dog training for example? Eventually they all look the same to me even if they are written by different people!

    I'm a Ubertoolz member too and you can't compare it to TBS. It has a ton of other useful tools besides the spinning capabilities.
     
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  7. moonlighsunligh

    moonlighsunligh Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Issue is google manual review, but that's probably not gonna happen. Sentences do not look similar at all.

    What are 2 most helpful advantages of ubertoolz over thebestspinner?

    I am still looking for something that can randomize order of paragraphs insidea article other than ubertoolz.
     
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  8. Rua999

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    I use wicked article creator. I have paragraphs spun, and about 20 different sentences for each sentence. But i have to go through each sentence now manually changing each sentence, words, and phrases up a bit cos even though the sentences are highly spun, when i put one of the outputted paragraphs through copyscape these sentences still show up in many places.

    Does anyone know of a quicker way to spin these already spun sentences and paragraphs to be more unique than what im doing now?! (Going through each sentence and spinning parts of sentence, phrases and words = very long + very boring!)

    Other than selecting favourites in TBS byd way?!

    Thanks :)
     
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    what you are looking for is still not available in market... maybe in a couple of days :)
     
  10. codo3500

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    I made my own scripts to do this and put it all together, but basically:
    - Write 10-15 sentences per sentence-set.
    - Each paragraph contains 3-5 sentences (random amount) chosen from 6-8 sentences. (no chance of using the same sentence-set twice in a para, uses permutations)
    - 6-8 paragraphs, chosen from 12 paragraphs. (once again, uses permutations, no chance of re-using the same paragraph)
    - Manually spin (using TBS favourites) all sentences. Starts off slow, but then gets quicker as you build up your favourites. Generally 40-60% of words will be spun, but mostly phrases, and using nested spinning, such a:
    "to catch the bus {to my {home|house}|to {{my |}{school|university}}"

    This takes a while, around a day (10-12 hours). It's massive overkill for the niches I'm targeting. I have unlimited awesome articles though, and will never need to write one again for the niche. I can even build sites going after similar niches and re-use it.

    I don't believe the footprint on this will ever be viewable. I've done tonnes of research into n-grams and what google can detect, and this is just way too random unless I used this article well into the millions of times.
     
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    Sounds similar to what im trying to do. How are you getting the permutations with spintax so they dont give duplicates? or is this what your custom bots do?
     
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    This is what my ccustom bot does, but it's really quite basic. Happy to shoot you some code (PHP) if you would like to give it a shot. My biggest issue is it makes the output huge. One paragraph of spin tax is 400kb for 3 sentences, around 3-4mb for 4 sentences in a text file from memory. It also can't be put back into TBS at this point as it just crashes, so I use my own script to output articles. On my crappy server this takes about 5-10 seconds to spit out an article. Well worth it though.
     
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    tbs but use it like a pro :)
     
  14. moonlighsunligh

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    So you use spun content not for link building but on your own site?

    Lets say you make a 100 pages site out of spun article. Do you just change keyword on each page?

    I mean this could look unreadable if you just change the keyword.
     
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    Just using them for my tier 1, not my money site yet. Could easily be used on my money site. I'm actually making a new super-article purely for my money site some time this week.

    I do them in keyword groups actually. It's all part of how I keep it random. I'm actually implementing this today, as so far I've been manually making my Tier 1, and inserting my keyword manually (so it always fits in nicely).

    Here is my way of doing it:
    - Insert one paragraph which MUST be somewhere in the article.
    - This paragraph will have many more sentences, seeing as though it needs to be random, and the paragraph will be used twice as often as other paragraphs.
    - Work out your keywords into blocks. For example, lets say you have 30 sentences in the sentence-set which will contain your link, you'll then have:
    -=- 40% would contain your main keywords
    -=- 20% would contain a URL variant
    -=- 20% would be LSI keywords and brand name
    -=- 20% would be "click here" style anchors.

    Examples (links are bolded):
    If you're looking for a great {dentist in toronto|toronto dentist} then be sure to check out Jeff Peterson.
    A great densist in Toronto is {Jeff Peterson|Dr. Jeff Peterson}.
    Jeff Peterson is a great dentist based in toronto, check out his site at {http://jeffp.com|http://www.jeffp.com}
    If you're looking for a great dentist in Toronto, {check these guys out|click here}.
    Jeff Peterson is one of the best dentists in Toronto. (I include this because sometimes I don't want any links, in the case of making Web 2.0's with multiple posts. Keeps it more random)

    Do the maths, but if your keywords aren't interchangeable, make a new sentence for them, and put the interchangeable ones in there. Obviously the above will have the other words changed on synonym level, and have many more variants. I'm just using those as examples.

    It may take some effort, but you only have to do this once. And getting your keywords properly placed is a MASSIVE factor, as Google takes this into account more than ever after Penguin - the surrounding text has to make sense with the anchor text.
     
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    the most effective way in spinning the article is manual spinning.. which you can choose the best synonyms of the word..
     
  17. codo3500

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    This just isn't the case any more. You need to be doing sentence and paragraph level spinning. Do some research into N-grams. Google knows that these are basically the same:
    - "You should've come to the party"
    - "You should have come to the party"
    - "You must have come to the party"

    Have you ever seen Google Predictive search suggestions? It even knows when you're using different numbers as synonyms, such as:
    "Britney Spears pics 2011" is the same as "Britney Spears pics 2012" in the eyes of Google when it's looking for duplicate/spun content. Yes, it helps, but Google will look at that phrase, and say "They're 80% similar".

    Google is getting smarter, synonym spinning alone just DOES NOT work any more. Despite having a huge amount of permutations, Google can still detect similarities in phrases, it then looks for this to happen again in your article, and if you've done synonym spinning only, it'll find it, again and again, and you'll be slapped.
     
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    I always have my writers rewrite sentences and paragraphs but I tell them to forget how the initial sentence was written so they dont just copy the other sentence and reword it. That way each sentence and each paragraph is totally unique. It doesnt read the best but who cares.
     
  19. moonlighsunligh

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    rep given.

    Do you use keyword tokens in Tier1 articles. For example i reckon Google likes the best links from as relevant pages as possible.

    Lets say you have written a pretty general super spun article about dentists, but you have a site about promoting several dentist's private practices. So your keywords would be (example) Dr Peterson, Dr Smith, Dentist Veronica.

    So for generated article, you gonna use for promoting Dr Peterson, would you use the keyword Dr Peterson at least 3 times in the article (including anchor text). When promoting Dentist Veronica , use keyword Dentist Veronica 3 times in the article instead. All this to make Google recognizes these articles as relevant ones to the keyword.

    I have feeling that Google may rank pages not entirely based on anchor text, but on theme/keywords pages you are getting links from use. For example Google would rank your page about Dr Peterson for some keywords such as dentist education in case link comes form pages about (related to keyword) dentist education, not Dr Peterson.
     
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  20. codo3500

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    You're spot on, in a sentence-set I will use the keyword in some and not others. This means the Keyword is used quite a few times, but ultimately it's used a random amount of times still, as to avoid a footprint.