How to write chat messages that convert

speedy5044 said:
not a campaign but 1 to 1 , actually better than campaign , you can get up to more than $100 per conversion (im old school so i dont know the current rates exactly)
but @feanor the husband message is cool idea but depend on what you are using that , and what platform , and your previous message too , if you are not automated and just looking for 1 conversion per day you can test shit , it will work eventually , keep trying
what @lucky.sparks said is right too , sometime change the domain , use different TLD (cheap one) , Adult shit have awsome ROI , keep trying
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It will be automated and I plan to run in different dating sites. I don't think I can get $100 per conversion (maybe with RevShare), but initially I'm targetting T3 geos, which pay max $2 (I'm from T3 country, that's why)
 
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crnack said:
I don't know what value is the adult stuff about other than adult pics. Who cares about some husband, really I think you have this idea from some adult site which has issues with selling anything. I saw it couple times and would never click it. Immediate cockblocker.

If you don't point out what benefits are there for signing up, you're just trying to convince someone to do stuff they have no reason to do.
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I actually created the "husband" message now, didn't know it existed. But if someone is using it, then maybe it converts.

Adult and Sweeps bring no value to the users, I know. But they're easier to convert and cheaper to test, that's why I'm on them.

I once tried Nutra and Crypto, but just wasted hundreds of dollars ... one needs pocket to test these high paying stuff.
 
crnack said:
I don't know what value is the adult stuff about other than adult pics. Who cares about some husband, really I think you have this idea from some adult site which has issues with selling anything. I saw it couple times and would never click it. Immediate cockblocker.
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DO NOT EVER think like a customer , we are 7 billion , getting few hundreds is not that hard , "normal" people are paying 15/20k to fuck onlyfans girls , do you thing you can pay such amount for a quickie
 
speedy5044 said:
DO NOT EVER think like a customer , we are 7 billion , getting few hundreds is not that hard , "normal" people are paying 15/20k to fuck onlyfans girls , do you thing you can pay such amount for a quickie
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What? I have trouble understanding what you've written.

Should I stop thinking like a customer? And what? I didn't mention any quickie or price. Damn.
 
I watched this episode few days ago :p

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Also test a version with live streaming. Tell them at 6 or 8 am (or any hour) you will stream your hot stream. There is a chance to have a private chat with me on the website
But I have a hard time believing this will convert. I saw people getting 0.1% cr on average with adult cpa.
 
crnack said:
Also test a version with live streaming. Tell them at 6 or 8 am (or any hour) you will stream your hot stream. There is a chance to have a private chat with me on the website
But I have a hard time believing this will convert. I saw people getting 0.1% cr on average with adult cpa.
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Actually, I think anything that would fall in the "chat traffic" category is not good (my "husband" example included). Publishers usually prohibit it.

I think it's because this traffic doesn't convert well for them.

But if I run on scale, with cheap traffic, it may be worth.
 
Chat won't work because it's untargeted and cold. Simple principles.
Take a phone. Call someone. They will have hard time ignoring you, but once they realize you want them to sign up on adult website, they'll block your number.
 
crnack said:
Chat won't work because it's untargeted and cold. Simple principles.
Take a phone. Call someone. They will have hard time ignoring you, but once they realize you want them to sign up on adult website, they'll block your number.
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It depends on who calls you. If it's a pretty naked woman telling you that she is waiting you in the site, it's a different story.
 
I'm doing some manual tests right now. I just uploaded an a*s*s picture in my profile and sent 7 simple "Hi" messages.
Got 3 replies. I'll try to convert at least one.
 
feanor said:
It depends on who calls you. If it's a pretty naked woman telling you that she is waiting you in the site, it's a different story.
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Well, if a pretty lady is calling me to invite me to join a sex website... I would've wasted her time as long as possible on the phone.
 
We're deviating from the topic. It's about messages that convert, not necessarily in the adult niche.

I actually want to avoid a chat bot, but I think a single message will be hard to convert ...

My original question is where to learn about this ... is it the same theory as any other copywriting or there's something specific?
 
Well, just think about what you would like to hear from a girl that you want to bang, add some CTA, and do an A/B test, after the first hundred answers you will have a better idea about how to improve what you did
 
Yuu said:
Well, just think about what you would like to hear from a girl that you want to bang, add some CTA, and do an A/B test, after the first hundred answers you will have a better idea about how to improve what you did
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Hey I know you from adult forums. I'm sure you can give a good example. please?
 
IMO all of the ideas in this thread are bullshit. I tested most of them over the years on various campaigns/traffic sources.
People who have their dick in their hands are just agitated by chatting with them about bullshit. Be DIRECT. Dont try to be smart. Be direct, short, and as simple as you can.
 
So many conflicting information :(

I really prefer to go direct, but does this work? Can you give an example?
 
feanor said:
So many conflicting information :(

I really prefer to go direct, but does this work? Can you give an example?
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Yes, in fact, it does work better than anything else for me. Dont use excuses like the images arent loading, dont use the comparative angles(x site is better than this one)

Play on their instincts. You want to make their dick so full of blood that they dont think just click, this is especially true if you promote smartlinks.

If you need examples, visit any big adult sites, and keep refreshing until you get a dating related banner. Save it, visit the prelander, save that too, and try to think of a way to turn that into chat messages. Those angles my seem to be old, but they work. They spend a lot of money running those creatives. Or visit the top camgirls at any camsite, try not to be horny and analize what they do exactly. You will learn a lot what works.
 
"I liked your pics. This site is full of fake accounts, why don't you try to find a date there [LINK]"

What about this? It's direct
 
HyperEVmedia said:
Yes, in fact, it does work better than anything else for me. Dont use excuses like the images arent loading, dont use the comparative angles(x site is better than this one)

Play on their instincts. You want to make their dick so full of blood that they dont think just click, this is especially true if you promote smartlinks.

If you need examples, visit any big adult sites, and keep refreshing until you get a dating related banner. Save it, visit the prelander, save that too, and try to think of a way to turn that into chat messages. Those angles my seem to be old, but they work. They spend a lot of money running those creatives. Or visit the top camgirls at any camsite, try not to be horny and analize what they do exactly. You will learn a lot what works.
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"analyze what they do". You mean what the girsl do?

I just bought access to Adplexity Adult, I'll try to analyze the campaigns/offers there. Altough the traffic seems to be mostly banner, not chat messages.
 
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