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How to use your BHW membership to make a full time online income

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by shezboy, Aug 25, 2014.

  1. shezboy

    shezboy Elite Member

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    I wrote this in the hope that it may help new members of the forum or anyone who wants some straight answers about what they need to do to make money online. Well, here it is. I hope it's of help to some members.

    First of all, let me answer a question that you may ask as you're reading through this, which would be along the lines of, "Why are you posting this in a forum that you don't own instead of publishing it on your own blog"?

    It's a fair question but the reasons are numerous.

    1. This information can reach more people being published on BHW than it could on a stand-alone blog
    2. The people on BHW are looking for this kind of information and help
    3. Life is about give and take. Like I have done a number of times at BHW, I like to put something back in to the community. I was lucky in that I was able to learn a huge amount of information from this forum from which I then went on to making a full time living online.

    So how to you take all of the information that's freely available at BHW and use it to make your living?

    Well, first you need to spend something and that thing is "time". It doesn't matter how much or how little you have of it but you're going to need to spend it. As you're spending your time at BHW you're actually making an investment and it's an investment that will never lost value because you're investing in yourself.

    What you learn here is going to either create a basic foundation that you can build on or it's going to make something just click in your head and an idea will side-swipe you from nowhere. That idea could just be the ticket that takes you on a fast track trip to earning money online.

    So where do you start?

    Well, the first place to begin would be the http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/f24-introductions/. USE THAT SECTION. Don't be shy and just say whatever feels comfortable to you. Other members will say "hi" and when they do you need to reply. You're looking to make friends here and not just with experienced members but total newbies too.

    I was full time online in 2005 and was reading posts in this forum at that point but I didn't actually become a member until 2008. I didn't spend every day at BHW but I did browse it often. I was a lurker and I was learning.

    Side note:
    Just because a member is considered a newbie at BHW it doesn't mean they're a newbie online. I've been full time online since 2005 but if I go over to a different forum and join up I'll be considered a newbie. Bear that in mind.

    The next thing you can do is spend some time reading through the different sections of the forum. Go to the http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/f25-blackhat-lounge/ and read some of the conversations that are going on. It doesn't matter what the topic is, read what people are saying and the replies etc. This is a great way to learn BHW etiquette. Get a feel of the place and what's accepted and what's not.

    Trust me, if you behave like an idiot here you'll be kicked out pretty quickly.

    If you can add something relevant to any conversation in the forum then go ahead and do it. Jump in, get your feet wet and be part of the conversation. If you can help a member with an issue they're having then help them. They'll thank you for it and you'll probably be helping other members who are also having the same issue but didn't post about it.

    You'll notice the "thanks" button being pressed on your post and it's a good feeling know that you've helped others for, seemingly, nothing in return. But what you're actually getting is a reputation for helping others and reputation at BHW means everything because it equates to trust.

    So you probably want to get down to the nitty gritty of putting stuff together and making some money from it. This is where it comes down to you as a person, you're either gonna be able to do this or you're not and it's as simple as that.

    What I mean by this is that if you're going to make a full time income online then you're really going to have to put some thought in to things. You probably won't ever be able to take a ready-made, step by step, system created by someone else and make a full time income from it right out of the box.

    The methods that people offer do work as stated but the secret to making money from them is by using them with other methods and/or putting your very own spin on things. This is why I said you'll need to put some thinking it to this if you want to make a decent income online.
    As an example I took autoblogging, twisted it with Twitter and linked it with the eBay affiliate program. It was pretty easy to do and was just a matter of connecting things that already existed to make a new method. I made some really easy money each month with that system.

    At the time there were lots of people claiming that Autoblogging was dead and that Twitter traffic didn't convert. Well, I proved them all wrong. And then I took that method and gave it away for free on BHW.

    I wanted to do that as a way of giving back to the forum but at the time I had no idea how popular the thread would be and it certainly boosted my reputation at BHW.


    I don't know your current status at the forum or your marketing experience, your drive, goals or current issues that you feel are holding you back so it's difficult to say exactly what you should do next that would be right for you.

    What I would suggest is taking a couple of money making methods that are already proven to work and study them. Work out why they work and where they're weakness is. What could be done/changed/added to improve it?

    Often times you can take an existing method, change it slightly and then add to it by using services offered by others in the http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/f73-marketplace/ The market place on here offers you just about every service you need for making money. It's just a case of balancing how much you spend and how much you make.

    The chances are that you'll need to spend before you earn but that's just the way it is but it's worth it in the long run.

    You can look at the BHW Market Place as a grocery store selling all the ingredients that you need to make a cake but you need to decide what cake you're going to make and the right set of ingredients to make it.

    I recently made a new discovery about using eBay and the more I use it I'm find new ways of making it work better simply by making use of some services that are being provided in the Market Place section. It just takes a little thought.
    The tools, systems and methods that you need to make a full time income online are right there waiting for you right now but the only way of making it all work is by putting it altogether with a little bit of thought. Lose any desperation that you may have as it will hold you back, slow you down and cause you to make mistakes.

    What ever you do, don't give up trying. Mistakes are not mistakes, they're just another part of learning.

    Shez
     
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  2. MissioneR

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    Well said OP, nice share here. It's much important for the newbies and all beginners in IM. It will help them well as you said.
     
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    When life kicks you in the nuts be sure to kick it back twice.

    Great post mate, some good motivational stuff to be read there.
     
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    Nice and great.. it will be really helpful for IM who all are beginners....:)
     
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  5. godspeed007

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    Great post for beginners. People contribute a lot here. That's why I'm in love with this place.
     
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  6. TheUnborn

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    Excellent way to start the IM journey on BHW for new members
     
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  7. shezboy

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    I know I didn't quote everyone but thanks to everyone for the feedback and comments.
     
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  8. WizGizmo

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    Nice thread, shezboy. I have now moved it to the "Making Money"
    section and it is now a "sticky". :)

    "Wiz"
     
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    Thanks for this.

    I am a newbie here, and I am looking into the odds and ends of making money online. This article has certainly opened my eyes to a few truths that I previously wasn't aware of.

    Time is certainly our most valuable asset, and failing to use that asset wisely is what can make or break any business venture...online or offline.

    Great info.
     
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  10. sashablack

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    This will definitely get the brains working :) good post!

    -Sasha
     
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    I was moved to post an introduction after reading this. In the few weeks that I've been a member, I have spent so many sleepless nights locked into BHW content that I suffer with paralysis by analysis. I visit daily and comment often. I am anxious to become immersed in methods and knowledge but I am also a "teach me to fish" type of guy.

    I haven't been allowed to PM or post. I comment regularly but they don't seem to count. I don't know how to elevate my status to gain more accessibility.

    I hope to make your acquaintance and enjoy the benefit of your insight. I could always use a mentor if feeling so inclined.
     
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  12. shezboy

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    I'm pleased that you were prompted to go and introduce yourself. Well done on making that first step. If you comment in some sections then the posts won't increase your post count. One example is the "download" section. Have you posted in other sections? If you're post count isn't going up then post in the lounge for help if you're unable to send a PM.

    I too spent a long tie downloading anything and everything from the shared section and it can mess with your head. Because so much 'perceived high value' stuff is available to download you tend not to value what you download. Take a deep breath and focus on one thing first of all but even before that I would suggest asking for help on choosing a method that you want to dive in to.

    People won't hand you things on a plate but they will point you in the right direction.

    I tent not to personally mentor people these days as it's not usually financially viable for me to do so on a one-2-one bases. But in all honesty you can get mentored in here by the right people simply by asking the right questions and showing that you're willing to learn by doing things for yourself while asking those questions.

    Simply put, BHW really does hold the right information for you to create a full time income online. You just need to ask for help and be prepared to get your hands dirty. It's also one of the best ways to actually 'learn' a method/system/technique because you end up mastering it.
     
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  13. InstaMoney

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    This is an amazing post, especially for newbies. Thank you very much for sharing!
     
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    This is really a superb post for new comers very detailed one. Will definitely help them :)
     
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  15. shezboy

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    Thanks for doing that Wiz. I hope the info can reach more people here at BHW because of that.

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    After reading through the replies on this thread it seems glaringly obvious that people need tutorials on tools that are already out there which show them how to use them (possibly with other tools/services) so they can make some money. We all need to make some money, right?

    That's what I did with Twitter and Autoblogging and people were genuinely grateful for being shown that method. To me it seemed like a simple idea/method but to others it enabled them to start making their first $$ online and that made changes to their life.

    It's all too easy for those who are experienced in online marketing to take much of their knowledge for granted and not realize that sharing just a little of it could actually enable someone else to start their online journey.

    I really don't mind sharing what I know but I am limited by the time spent documenting that knowledge. While I like to help people I still need to make a living and not all of it is totally passive yet so I still have to spend some time during the week doing 'stuff' to keep maintain my income. (yeah life sucks).
     
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  16. shezboy

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    Well done for making an introduction. All members here should make a post in that section. Lurking is fine but you'll go further and get results when you start interacting with a forum such as this.

    Shez
     
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    New invention. I have to say that your method really attract me. Thanks a lot for your informative post. I hope it will be helpful new comers also.
     
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    i'm new member and i really need to read something like this, thank you so much ;)
     
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  19. shezboy

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    Thanks. Have you made an introduction in the forum yet?

    Shez
     
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    This epistle is an eye-opener. I will take action and see that I achieve the good fate. Thanks.