How to stay motivated/optimistic while doing SEO?

karupoiss · Apr 27, 2014

I want to rank a long term site so I am bulding manually 10 web 2.0-s per day to the site but it's hard to keep doing it day-in-day-out while seeing no kw in top 300. It's not a big site, 18 articles and in my opinion low to medium competition kw-s.

I have other projects also going but they are similar to this and I'm quite an impatient person. I want to do it though, to build character because I know I lack that quality but what should I do to keep being optimistic and motivated while creating the backlinks and seeing no results? How long should I keep doing it while not seeing results?

I don't even know how many Web 2.0-s should I build per kw. Should I try to build backlinks to one kw untill it starts ranking or build to all of them? I am building to all of them because I though it looks more natural this way.

LakeForest · Apr 27, 2014

Stay motivated by making money, then the experiments and projects take on a new dimension of acceptable risk instead of do-or-die.

Total Noob · Apr 27, 2014

SEO is f*cking painful in the beginning. You have to make these useless 2.0s, blog posts, whatever in hopes that Google will magically rank your website. They add no value to anyone, anywhere. You see no results at the start, and it sucks - it seems like your days are wasted on nothing.

Eventually, though, you will rank, make any amount of money (even $1.50 on an email submit), and a fire will light up under you. You'll realize that you can make money by doing the simplest things day in and day out. It almost seems like you're stealing money, because you can literally just watch Netflix all day (if you want to) and still make the same amount of money.

For RIGHT NOW, take a break for a couple days. Google probably hasn't already indexed all of your 2.0s, has it? Let those ride for a bit, work on something else, and come back in a couple days and start fresh. As long as you're not building 800 2.0s one day and then stopping for a month, Google won't really care.

The real motivation comes from when you see any sort of money, though. Even one ranking in the top 300 will motivate you.

Make sure you have analytics and webmaster tools installed on your site so you can see if you're getting ANY sort of traffic. Even one visit from a long tail keyword will motivate you. Don't get discouraged if your sites bounce around in the rankings for a while - it happens to every new site out there. If you continue to work at it, you WILL enter the top 10.

Don't focus on creating a million web 2.0s. Focus on creating a couple SOLID ones - 1,000+ words per - and then build links to those. 5 strong backlinks are more powerful than 50 "meh" ones.

Back in 2011 I was ranking for a high competition KW off of just a few article links and a PR3 Squidoo lens. I BLASTED that Squidoo lens into oblivion. It was laser targeted and KW optimized because I made it myself. Obviously, times have changed, and Squidoo isn't what it once was, but you get the point.

Good luck,

Jared

karupoiss · Apr 27, 2014

Jared255 said:
SEO is f*cking painful in the beginning. You have to make these useless 2.0s, blog posts, whatever in hopes that Google will magically rank your website. They add no value to anyone, anywhere. You see no results at the start, and it sucks - it seems like your days are wasted on nothing.

Eventually, though, you will rank, make any amount of money (even $1.50 on an email submit), and a fire will light up under you. You'll realize that you can make money by doing the simplest things day in and day out. It almost seems like you're stealing money, because you can literally just watch Netflix all day (if you want to) and still make the same amount of money.

For RIGHT NOW, take a break for a couple days. Google probably hasn't already indexed all of your 2.0s, has it? Let those ride for a bit, work on something else, and come back in a couple days and start fresh. As long as you're not building 800 2.0s one day and then stopping for a month, Google won't really care.

The real motivation comes from when you see any sort of money, though. Even one ranking in the top 300 will motivate you.

Make sure you have analytics and webmaster tools installed on your site so you can see if you're getting ANY sort of traffic. Even one visit from a long tail keyword will motivate you. Don't get discouraged if your sites bounce around in the rankings for a while - it happens to every new site out there. If you continue to work at it, you WILL enter the top 10.

Don't focus on creating a million web 2.0s. Focus on creating a couple SOLID ones - 1,000+ words per - and then build links to those. 5 strong backlinks are more powerful than 50 "meh" ones.

Back in 2011 I was ranking for a high competition KW off of just a few article links and a PR3 Squidoo lens. I BLASTED that Squidoo lens into oblivion. It was laser targeted and KW optimized because I made it myself. Obviously, times have changed, and Squidoo isn't what it once was, but you get the point.

Good luck,

Jared

Thanks, Jared! I have ranked sites before with churn and burn but never doing the legit way and staying in the ranks for long. I got tired of always getting the sites burned so I decided to start creating long term sites.

My web 2.0-s are 500 words or so and I build links to them with GSA SER. Each Web 2.0 will get 15 "kitchen sink" links and 15 contextual links. The 15 contextual links will each get another 10 "kitchen sink" links. Will that be a SOLID web 2.0 link?

karupoiss · Apr 30, 2014

Does anybody has some more tips and advice one how they kept being motivated in the cource of doing boring, repetitive job with no results for some time?

royserpa · May 13, 2014

karupoiss said:
Does anybody has some more tips and advice one how they kept being motivated in the cource of doing boring, repetitive job with no results for some time?

What i do is play poker as it serves me 2 purposes:

1) Im building a budget for IM and I grow my poker bankroll
2) It really helps me stay focused in poker and knowing my IM efforts are slowly growing

So what I advice is to get another productive activity. SEO can be slow as a turtle or as fast as a thunder (i have only experienced the slow rankings but people also have told about the fast rankings).

Moreale of the story? Focus in other activities and you will succeed

stharthjw6j · May 13, 2014

I personally HATE ranking. Basically SEO is the equivalent of pissing in the wind, you don't know where it's gonna end up, and the big G can change the rules any minute. Fuck that for my head exploding. I take nice, predicatable & controllable ads. MUCH easier to get success. jmo.

TheSilentScholar · May 22, 2014

karupoiss , seems like you took the words out of my mouth, feeling the same here..had done some manual link building earlier and it went no where, its so easy to get disappointed in IM atleast for me..

wanna buy the GSA and start some link building on auto. Like royserpa said we need something else running in the background to keep us from burning out..else its a pita to keep up with this, make sure to reward yourself for the tiniest of the victories

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