Been going back and forth with this guy for almost three weeks. He placed a CL ad for someone to work in his office. Before I made him a proposal he said he was interested in other methods besides having an in house employee. I quoted him low, $1200, but I'm ok with it since its my second client. I can tell the guy is sold, but he's an older gentleman and in a professional service field. From what I gather he wants me to tell him what im doing, which I would never not even for $10000/month. Plus, the proposal offered him redesign of his two horrendous, mistake ridden, non SEO optimized websites free of charge for a 6 month commitment. The proposal was a hybrid of my own words and the proposal Taktical gave out. His previous SEO work has been unpaid college interns doing stuff he read about online or paid for from some crappy "authority site". I thought the deal was fair, but here is his response: Hi, I received you proposal and appreciate all of the effort that you put into it, If you recall, I placed a job offer for someone to work in my office. I like to be in control, and have an employer-employee relationship. This way I am not committed to a particular program. I thought that this was clear in the add, and that you were making a proposal of the work that you want to implement. The job offer is still open. Hours are flexible to fit your schedule. If you are still interested, I would very much like to work with you. You seem experienced and knowledgeable. Please let me know what you think.