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How to remain truly anonymous...?

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Lickalotpuss, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. Lickalotpuss

    Lickalotpuss Registered Member

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    Hey all,

    I have been thinking about this for a few days and have came up with a bunch of weird ways to be truly anonymous but there must be a more simple way.

    For instance, if you are using a proxy service to sell/market something your not supposed to and someone decides to come after you.. Well if they just look at the logs notice that "ABCPrxy Inc" owns the IP. They contact the company with some sort of authority then that person could potentially get YOUR IP address and possibly MAC address and more.. Then your screwed I would imagine.

    I'm not doing anything illegal but i have read some threads where some people seem to be crossing the line and IMO if authorities got involved then they would be screwed. These people MUST be expecting and doing something about that.

    Is it about driving to the local library and using their internet? lol Or purchasing a dedi server and RDP through that use a proxy on the dedi and go from there?

    I love hearing clever ideas so whatever you got I would love to hear.

    Thanks!

    Jack
     
  2. greentitanium

    greentitanium Senior Member

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    there should be plenty of proxies you wont have to worry about this with.
    and i too at one time was worried about my MAC address, but have been told not to worry about that.

    also...
    my favorite dinosaur is a Lapalotapuss
     
  3. Lickalotpuss

    Lickalotpuss Registered Member

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    Seems like they would be putting their fate in someone elses hands.. scarey.

    :D
     
  4. Lickalotpuss

    Lickalotpuss Registered Member

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    Are there such things as RDP logs? If you were to have a cheap dedi server and just RDP you probably wouldnt even need the proxy at that point.
     
  5. MisterGemini

    MisterGemini Senior Member

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    To avoid the calls where they give you up. Own your own network.

    Wardriving is probably the best way to be totally anonymous aside from giving up a geo-location, open networks don't tell anything.

    If you are going to setup a dedi with your own IPs then you really need to know what you are doing with your proxy setup. What you mentioned above still applies though. If they decided to call your provider and demand who owns what IP, then yeah, they could give you up if they decide they don't want any trouble. So if you go this route, you might want to talk to the provider you are dealing with to find out what their policy on this sort of thing is. The same applies for using RDP with host providers.

    However, the only truely anonymous method, is to disconnect your computer from the Internet. You are 100% golden then. :)
     
  6. Lickalotpuss

    Lickalotpuss Registered Member

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    Buy/Setup a dedi with a VCC...? No connecting info other than the orignal purchasing IP address.. go to McDonalds and order it. Then you can skip the proxy if you just RDP the dedi. But are their RDP logs?
     
  7. MisterGemini

    MisterGemini Senior Member

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    By default RDP doesn't do its own logging. However, if the ISP gets trouble, they still got your CC information. Unless you got that faked.
     
  8. Lickalotpuss

    Lickalotpuss Registered Member

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    How would the ISP get trouble? My ISP or the datacenter with the dedi? The dedi would have my VCC info.. which is nothing of use. And my ip would be from McDonalds/Wardriving which again no use. The only thing I can see leaving a footprint is the RDP access if your access from home.

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    War driving is your best bet, and if your truly paranoid then make sure you spoof your mac address, that way if you ever got tracked back to the original network that you were on, if any authentication logs were kept they would only have a fake mac address.

    A real mac address can give away the manufacture, the manufacture could then be contacted and give out information like the model of the laptop, where it was supplied to etc etc.
     
  10. Lickalotpuss

    Lickalotpuss Registered Member

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    Wow. You might just annoy the f*ck out of them going from one tunnel to another trying to track your footprints. Does anyone else have input on this method?
     
  11. Lickalotpuss

    Lickalotpuss Registered Member

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    This is what I would agree with. Although not the most convenient its free basically and is truly anonymous. MAC spoofing is ridiculously easy.

    I never really thought about a MAC being traced that way. Very interesting. Not sure how far you could get with that info. The MAC would tell about the manufacture then you could track the model of laptop possibly the SKU of the box it went to then figure it out it was bought at Best Buy with a credit card. :eek:

    lol. Unlikely but I wonder now.. is that possible?
     
  12. toyo

    toyo BANNED BANNED

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    5 vpns... talk abt paranoia ... if you use 1 vpn is enough... ppl usually get caught with the money trail
     
  13. The Scarlet Pimp

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    write an ebook, lotta peeps wanna know how to stay invisible.
     
  14. theconfidenceman

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    exactly. and even if you go thru every level of protection, there will always be a camera at the ATM where you pull out your money, and cameras leading to that ATM from the street and highways.
     
  15. dw_n_cinti

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    If you are making money on the site, they can just follow the affiliate link back to you.

    DW
     
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    mazgalici Supreme Member

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    How to remain truly anonymous...? -> There is no such thing!
     
  17. ru ru

    ru ru Junior Member

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    easy, buy it.

    make sure you made enough $$$ from your activities,
    then pay anyone involved to keep their mouth shut.
     
  18. MisterGemini

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    haha.. that's my favorite answer. :)
     
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    just keep yourself safe..! :D