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How To Get Around VERO?

Discussion in 'Ebay' started by sharpie349, Sep 26, 2009.

  1. sharpie349

    sharpie349 Regular Member

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    I am selling VERO software on ebay and I tried to post one auction and they took it down a bit later for copyright. The auction was bolded highlighted and all of that crap to make it stand out so im thinking that could of triggered it easier. Does anyone know a work around so I can sell these items they are actually genuine products.
    Would appreciate the help.
    Mike
     
  2. marco2379

    marco2379 Junior Member

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    You probably won't be able to get around it unless you dramatically change the wording in your ebay ad to exclude any trademark words. VeRO members usually set up notifications that will send them an email whenever an auction is posted that contains certain keywords, which allows them to report VeRO violations quickly.

    Your auction wasn't deleted fast because of bold or highlighted text (I doubt the VeRO member just happened to be browsing and your auction caught their eye), but rather you had keywords in your auction that set off an email to a VeRO member.

    I only know this because I'm a VeRO member myself and the notification emails was my primary way of getting offending auctions taken down fast.
     
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  3. sharpie349

    sharpie349 Regular Member

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    Thank you for the info.
    What would you recommend me doing then if I have genuine items?
    I will be selling many so I cant just prove that every single one of them are real because that would take forever. I don't understand why mine was when I see tons of others out there like mine some with 0 feedback.
     
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    marco2379 Junior Member

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    Are the items your selling your creation or are you reseller of legitimate items? Is your ad similar to the ads of someone else? The best thing to do is be unique, because the Verified Rights Owner program allows for the protection intellectual property which includes Item Description and Images.
     
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  5. sharpie349

    sharpie349 Regular Member

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    This is a name brand product and I get them by wholesale. I made the ad up by myself but it still is the overall same guidelines as the others. What does your last sentence mean?
    Thanks.
     
  6. marco2379

    marco2379 Junior Member

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    What I mean is when a VeRO member decides to request your auction to be deleted we have to state a reason and among the reasons are unauthorized use of item description, unauthorized use of images, as well as the ordinary complaints that someone doesn't have permission to resell the auction item.

    You should have received a notice that your auction was removed due to a VeRO violation, and possibly a link to dispute the VeRO claim. Its worth it to become a member of the VeRO program even if its just for gaining a better understanding of how the program works and how it may affect you.
     
  7. sharpie349

    sharpie349 Regular Member

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    The reason they said is because of copyright violation and that they think it might be pirated or a different copy.
    But I don't get why they would do that when they have no proof at all it sort of seems wrong.
     
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    marco2379 Junior Member

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    VeRO members always get the benefit of the doubt when they report an auction for deletion. My experience with VeRO has been primarily with software, scripts and ebooks. So I'm not sure how to go about becoming an authorized reseller of namebrand products.

    Did you use images that belong to someone else (on or off ebay) within your auction ad?
     
  9. sharpie349

    sharpie349 Regular Member

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    I just used simple stock photos.
    I dont think that will do anything.
     
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    marco2379 Junior Member

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    You never know and it really depends on what the copyright holder thinks is infringement.
     
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    yahhtrick Junior Member

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    Easiest way to get around VERO. !!!KEYWORDS!!!

    Look what is sticking and what is not then change ur titles and descriptions to match. :)
     
  12. sharpie349

    sharpie349 Regular Member

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    Well i see plenty of them with the software name exactly how its spelled and other main keywords. I want to try again even though there is a risk. There has to be some workaround.
     
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    nameistaken Newbie

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    You indicated that you were a VeRO member yourself, which is why I will ask a question to you for your expertise in helping me understand something.

    This is a very interesting topic and I did not know that Vero members were alerted with respect to keywords.

    If the Vero member is alerted to the keywords, then my question is why are some ads remaining online and others removed? My girlfriend was a new Ebay Merchant and her ad was removed within a few days of listing. The reason she chose the particular wording was due to the fact that thousands of other listings were, and the words were popular in the search bar. She tried to talk to the Vero member about it but they said it didn't matter and that if she fixed hers she would be able to sell again. She fixed the wording and she is selling under different words.

    But the question that I ask you since you are a Vero member is why then are the other thousands of listings using the same wording that she tried to use, still able to be online? They are not new ads. They have been there before my girlfriend posted hers and are now still there months later.

    As a Vero member yourself, can you help me understand this if Vero members are alerted to the keywords?

    There does not seem a way for merchants to report these other ads. When we informed Ebay they said unless the Vero member chooses to take it down then it remains. Wouldn't the Vero member want all ads removed? We suggested contacting the Vero member directly that took my girlfriends ad down, and they said that this could likely result in the suspension of my girlfriends account, which also didn't make sense. All we are trying to do it to follow the Vero rules and have all merchants be treated the same. Can you please help me understand this confusing system...
     
  14. chris-

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    A simple answer to you're question is..

    Every single vero item that stays up is due to the vero member letting them. So ask yourself what will they be getting from this?

    The answer is £££