How to get a real job

Sorry for the title as some of you guys don't like the term "real" job, but anyway that's what I am trying to figure out, let me explain.
After some time learning about SEO and other stuffs I think I have got a pretty good knowledge about it (not the @PHPInjected good level, but just the relatively good one), and I have many sites projects I want to start to quickly make passive incomes, but the thing is… I'm broke (hehe).
Eventually, in order to reach that passive income level, i realized I need some money in order to start and money to pay for my basic expenses (i don't go out much soo I guess social shyness is useful).
As I said I'll need money to start, I could do freelancing but the thing is that it's not like as soon as you'll learn the skill you'll automatically get jobs, NO, as everything in this life it'll require time, and I said to myself that instead of just grow the visibility of my Fiverr gigs and waiting I could use the time for something else.

Amd now I'm at that point where I want to offer my "skills" to local businesses, but (why is there always a "but" damn this life's cruel), bro that's a whole new world only figuring out which website you can offer your services to, it seems like there are too many websites at the same there are none.
After finding some couple websites you can eventually work with, there is the question "how should I approach these guys?", "what service can I offer to them?", "How can I package my services?". And many others, don't get me wrong I also love the "be your own boss" or "completely passive" stuffs but I understood that I need cash to grow them, it's like the saying "it's more easier to make money when you already have money" (or something along the line, I think I read it from a book).

I would like to get as most advice from you guys (again) as I can, I already started searching around the forum for digital agency stuff threads, but (this is the last one promised) getting your experienced point of view will really help.

Thanks

Hi. When I was in similar situation I actually got myself a job in digital marketing and general IT company.
This can provide you with steady income so you can live and operate freely.
How to do it? You know. Standard deal - you skill up, create resume, have examples and answers for interviews ready. Be persistent and with type of experience you have, you should be able to land a steady job in matter of days/weeks.


From that point, start upgrading yourself, learn more, freelance here and there and be involved in IT and SEO industry in general.

Also try looking for SEO or similar job that isn't that time consuming no matter it doesn't pay well. Man or girl up and r'n'r.

The most simple way is:
1) Learn the whole base in details about your niche
2) Create a CV
3) Find a team in your niche
4) Lie about your results and get in the team
5) Spend the team`s money and study on this money spent
6) Become kicked out the team because of bad results
7) Repeat the circle 3-4 times
8) Become middle specialist and start earning

This kinda bad stuff towards the teams` owners, but this is your life
Other way is a possibility to work in McDonalds and spend your salary on your tests

How do I fill a CV when all my qualifications are skills learned on the go? Is there some kind of template you guys might have stumbled upon or use?

Oleb said:

How do I fill a CV when all my qualifications are skills learned on the go? Is there some kind of template you guys might have stumbled upon or use?

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Fill it with your education and work examples.
If you need to thicken your portfolio, you can always provide some free services for charities you care about.

roydan said:

Fill it with your education and work examples.
If you need to thicken your portfolio, you can always provide some free services for charities you care about.

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Yep, that works

Oleb said:

How do I fill a CV when all my qualifications are skills learned on the go? Is there some kind of template you guys might have stumbled upon or use?

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The template matters less than the work you can show.

Most will have learned ‘on the go’. Agencies won’t want some generic marketing degree, they’ll want someone with experience.

Lowball yourself to get your foot in the door with entry positions, then prove you know what you’re doing. In the meantime, I’d be hawking freelance sites and get whatever experience you can.

I am currently making stable $1000 per month. The first thing you have to do is you have to have a teacher. Even though I failed on several projects such as fiverr clone, grab clone and, online motorbike dealers. I have a stable business at the moment. You have to find the right teacher. Then you learn from him. A good teacher will teach good things. Rich teachers will teach how to be rich

Jobdollarr said:

I am currently making stable $1000 per month. The first thing you have to do is you have to have a teacher. Even though I failed on several projects such as fiverr clone, grab clone and, online motorbike dealers. I have a stable business at the moment. You have to find the right teacher. Then you learn from him. A good teacher will teach good things. Rich teachers will teach how to be rich

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can i DM you?

In life, you first need to learn how to sell yourself. Be it for a 9-5 or your own business, you will always need to convince someone else to give you their money. You can't do it by being hesitant on what to say or what to ask.

Get a script on your mind, learn some rejection rebuttals and get on your way. Based on probabilities, if you never stop trying you will 100% sure get what you are looking for, if you are not asking the universe Elon Musk type of sheet, of course. Good luck mate!

Jobdollarr said:

I am currently making stable $1000 per month. The first thing you have to do is you have to have a teacher. Even though I failed on several projects such as fiverr clone, grab clone and, online motorbike dealers. I have a stable business at the moment. You have to find the right teacher. Then you learn from him. A good teacher will teach good things. Rich teachers will teach how to be rich

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Lol teacher. Not everyone get lucky in live and meet someone that want to guide them. Usually they just end up with fake guru etc than waste money. And finding for a teacher before you do anything, is just waste of time and 99% end up not doing anything. Honestly I don't know anyone in my life that meet a real mentor in life. They all learn themselves from self learn, experience and mistake, including me. It's your life and you are the one with the most interest on your life.

Pass some seo test online like the ones google provide and give you some digree after passing the test. Add it to your cv.
Because SEO need practice not just reading some articles online.
So when they will ask you about your real experience you don't have any.

Suree

Get a real job, by getting selected by a real company. To get selected by a real company, you need to make real appicaltions with your real CV, for their real openings and then if really shortlisted, then be real in the interview. Then you really stand a chance to get a real job.

milk_and_cake said:

Hi. When I was in similar situation I actually got myself a job in digital marketing and general IT company.
This can provide you with steady income so you can live and operate freely.
How to do it? You know. Standard deal - you skill up, create resume, have examples and answers for interviews ready. Be persistent and with type of experience you have, you should be able to land a steady job in matter of days/weeks.


From that point, start upgrading yourself, learn more, freelance here and there and be involved in IT and SEO industry in general.

Also try looking for SEO or similar job that isn't that time consuming no matter it doesn't pay well. Man or girl up and r'n'r.

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That is a pretty solid advice.

Yeah i was offended before i even opened this thread.

You don't need to have a work experience to write a functional resume which the type of CV you need to tailor only the things you've done with your skills.

Scorpion Ghost said:

Yeah i was offended before i even opened this thread.

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OK, so you are the one operating @Oleb 's BHW account. Nice to know that. Keep cooking, but make sure nothing over-flows, otherwise you may end up in a hot soup.

Bonjour, so i decided to give you guys a small update on the situation since my first post

1.) I created a CV, hilighting skills i have and all the value i can add t their business
2.) Created a nice website for the "agency" and thinking about adding some content to it
3.) Create the diff social profiles
4.) I searched on YT how to get clients and one suggested to look on Google Maps there you will get according to him "many clients" and he added "VERY EASY" in bold, so you bet that i clicked on that.
But anyway i did as the guy in the video showed and gathered a list of around 40 businesses around town based on the following criteria:

• No website
• Bad site design, no SSL(I thought this was something everyone had, but i was really surprized)

5.) After that i was supposed to do the cold calling part, you should have seen me freaking out about calling total stranger, who have businesses running and probably making decent money comparred to me who's broke as f*ck.
6.) I did some research here and there downloaded some books that i'm still reading, and finally made that call. To be honnest it wasn't talking to the guys on the other side that was hard, it was actually pressing that call button, it made me think for like 40 secs then i said "we have nothing to lose, worse he say is no, or don't ever call me"
7.) In the end of the day i made 4 calls, they all were very receptive [when i say "responsive" here, i mean that they were not like hanging up as soon as they heard why i was calling. which was kind of nice] (some more than other but way less the kind of thought i had prior the calls) they asked me to write them via Whatsapp
8.) According to a book i read (Oh i love books, did i ever mention to you guys my love for books??, It seems like there is a book for literally anything. But that is a tale for another time), It's better to focus your services on one niche, like SEO for plumbers or SEO for restaurants or somthing similar, I have taught about working mostly with restaurants for 2 reasons:

• I really want to help them grow and be proud later that i helped these guys
• Obviously as you are doing good job for a restaurants, you will get free foods(i hope so), yeah eating for free is a reason

But rn i'm broke so i don't think i can afford the luxury to niche down, the book has many interesting advices imo, this is even a point i want your help on, should i niche down or i can do that later??

I think that's all i've been through recently, I still have not got that "real" job, but i feel goog guys.
I sincerely thanks all of you guys for your bit of knowledge that you are willing to share.

Scorpion Ghost said:

Yeah i was offended before i even opened this thread.

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haha sorry mate

Yeah someone spoke before here on BHW(don't remember the topic, if someone has it... it was some months ago I think, in making money section but not sure) about reaching like IRL business like you did like restaurants, hairdresser and apparently it worked well. He advised to contact a lot of them. The thing is trying to get genuinely interested in what they do and not sound too corporate or like a spam call/someone who just want to sell them something.

Congratulations for you if some people are interested, and to just having call if you are shy.

I don't really know if you can niche, but as there is pleeennnttyyy of restaurant around the world maybe you can(yet you will not get free food for those who are long from you for sure^^).

Hope you will get money from it ASAP, otherwise yeah, getting a "real" job in the meantime might be necessary, hope you will find one that isn't too shitty. I just finished my studies and I'm considering doing postman for a year in the countryside, then going back to a big city after to do something in my field. Postman seems cool for me as you drive, and have no boss on your back during the day; if by any chance that can give you an idea of something to do ahaha.

Good luck, and give us news I'll surely follow that topic.