How to fill out multiple affiliate forms?

*Not SEO, but it's blackhat, so hopefully this is ok in this section...

I have my own FB ads and offer page set up where I generate leads for personal loans at ~$10. I sell them to local banks for about $25 but it's hard to scale because of the low volume they can accept. However, when trying to find any online buyers, they will only me to use their forms. I try them out and my conversion rate drops like 150%. So I had this idea:

Is there any way I can take the data I get on my lead forms and manually enter it into online forms? The issues I foresee are that most advertisers with offers like this store cookies so you can't fill out forms more than once in a 30 day period. Also they track your IP and dont allow multiple IP submits in a 30 day period.

Would a proxy or VPN do the trick if I logged out and in every time I wanted to manually enter the form info? Or is there another option?

Thanks!

I fail to follow your logic.

Are you providing fake or real leads? What do you mean by "i generate leads" exactly?
If you provide fake leads, they will catch you and you won't get paid. If you provide valid leads, the conversion rate won't change no matter who enters the data.

The leads are 100% real. I have a system set up where I am generating leads for personal loans using MY own forms. However, I want to sell them to someone else, but they won't let me do it unless I use THEIR forms. I'm essentially trying to get around using THEIR forms by manually entering the lead's info from MY forms into THEIRS. The only issue with this is that the buyers track IP and store cookies, so I would only be able to do this once before their system realizes "this user is trying to send multiple leads."

Hopefully that provides insight.

Try hiring a programmer to create a program that makes the forms from the bank appear on your site. So whenever someone fills up the form on your site, they're also filling up the banks form.

jackhatter1980 said:

The leads are 100% real. I have a system set up where I am generating leads for personal loans using MY own forms. However, I want to sell them to someone else, but they won't let me do it unless I use THEIR forms. I'm essentially trying to get around using THEIR forms by manually entering the lead's info from MY forms into THEIRS. The only issue with this is that the buyers track IP and store cookies, so I would only be able to do this once before their system realizes "this user is trying to send multiple leads."

Hopefully that provides insight.

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Yea, that won't work. CPA networks have advanced fraud prevention in place.

But why would you submitting the info change the conversion rate? That's what i don't get. Are their forms worse than yours? Are they more complicated to fill out?

The conversion rate drop what you experience is called "shaving", which is pretty much industry standard with CPA offers. It's not that your leads suddenly stop converting, it's just that you don't get credited for every submit. Try to find offers where there's only a minimal amount of shaving.

You can sell your leads too as you figured it out. There are people looking for these kind of leads regularly in the WTB, HaF or CPA sections. You just need to find the right buyer, if you think that you can make more money this way than with CPA.

HoNeYBiRD said:

Yea, that won't work. CPA networks have advanced fraud prevention in place.

But why would you submitting the info change the conversion rate? That's what i don't get. Are their forms worse than yours? Are they more complicated to fill out?

The conversion rate drop what you experience is called "shaving", which is pretty much industry standard with CPA offers. It's not that your leads suddenly stop converting, it's just that you don't get credited for every submit. Try to find offers where there's only a minimal amount of shaving.

You can sell your leads too as you figured it out. There are people looking for these kind of leads regularly in the WTB, HaF or CPA sections. You just need to find the right buyer, if you think that you can make more money this way than with CPA.

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Yeah, it's a mixture of a few things. For one, I found an extremely unique angle to generate these leads. And using someone else' offer disrupts the continuity of that angle. I understand shaving and am 100% ok with this, but I would love to just be able to post these leads into someone's CRM instead of trying to mess with a bunch of different variables.

Thanks for the reply!

Why not build out your own lead capture form and sell the leads locally or go direct with the advertisers. There are also some companies online that'll buy leads if you have good quality.