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How to cover myself in Paypal?

Discussion in 'Business & Tax Advice' started by amanitin, Aug 6, 2013.

  1. amanitin

    amanitin Newbie

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    I'm about to sell something which is worth a few hundred $ for one time only. I'm afraid of charge backs, how do I cover my ***? Can I create a fake Paypal account, let him send it there and then transfer to my real account?

    Any help would be much appreciated guys
     
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    Don't create a fake paypal. This will suspend both your accounts, real and fake.
    The only way to be safe is having proof that the person bought what he wanted to buy. That way even if the buyer does a chargeback, paypal will be on your side.

    But I am sure some members have better ideas and are more expert in that field.
     
  3. amanitin

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    I've read some horror stories of people losing money even with concrete proof cos paypal nearly always sides with the buyer. I just gotta do this one time, just looking at my options
     
  4. haki_master

    haki_master Regular Member

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    Simple

    make a stealth account , do it properly and dont leave any traces.Receive the money from your sale there , then either withdraw to an atm card or send them to your real account.If by chance the buyer chargebacks even though he got what he purchased and paypal sides with buyer you dont need to cover the negative balance of your stealth account.
    Alternatively every dispute can we worked out , if the buyer wants refund agree to it but he has to return the item back to you and pay for the shipping costs.
     
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    create a second PP account. The only downside is pretty high fee for transfering money from unverified account.
     
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    Make a video recording of yourself packaging the product and putting it in the mail. Get closeups of the labels so that the viewer knows it is the same package being deposited in the mail.

    If it ever comes up, it will stand as proof of shipment.
     
  7. amanitin

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    Good advice, thanks guys. I figure I create a fake account on a different browser and on a vpn and I should be good

    Checked out that there's no fees from sending from unverified PP, but theres a max sending limit of $100/month... thats no good. Any idea how to get it anonymously verified? I don't live in the US either
     
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    You can buy a verified PP account with a VPS which was was used to set it up, depends on how much money you plan to push through but it's probably the best option anyway.
     
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    sasmeesami Junior Member

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    If your buyer Chargeback means fake Account and real account get's negative balance due to exchange the money i face this problem in past...........

    Paypal Support only seller those who shipping the items becoz they have shipping details...........Not For Online works............
     
  10. amanitin

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    sounds like an expensive option for just a one time transaction

    I just checked the fees again... seems like sending limits are much higher for us europeans.. so I just need a european vpn
     
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    syntaxed Junior Member

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    I will go with stealth account as stated above. But, yeah, you gotta include the paypal fees into your calculation as well
     
  12. amanitin

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    Not sure if I understood you correctly.. you're saying they'd deduct it from my real account? I doubt it if I use a vpn and try cover my tracks to make it seem like 2 different persons. I googled and people have gotten away with it fine

    I just hope for no chargebacks though, but I'd like to play it safe
     
  13. InnovativeSEO

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    PayPal actually is pretty tricky with identifying these, and if you use mobile, DO NOT have the second account tied to that device or number in any way, even if its a Google number. Make sure you mark the invoice as GOODS, (not services) and the buyer should have a verified address or that can be a glitch that gives him a chance to still win if he did a CB. Track the shipment and get a signature, or something showing it landed at the verified address. Additionally, if all else fails, you can speak to the right department and still get it worked out. Been there, done that
     
  14. distantshores

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    Can someone recommend where to buy couple reliable EU (non UK) based PayPal account with/wihtout VPS/VPN service? I would also need way cashing out money from this account anonymously, up to 1000 USD/GBP monthly. UK PP account won't be a solution since it only let's do bank withdrawals which can be easily traced back to the recipient.
     
  15. cryptons

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    just make another account and get verified by buy a vcc which will cost u around 10euros and then u can recieve money and send it to another account!
     
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  16. distantshores

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    Thanks, getting stealth PP account verified with VCC is not a problem, but how then you manage cashing it out anonymously. I need the money in hard print :) and I reside outside US.
     
  17. IMpossible

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    If you go fake, later or sooner you will face the consequences.
     
  18. distantshores

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    Thanks, getting stealth PP account verified with VCC is not a problem, but how then you manage cashing it out anonymously. I need the money in hard print :) and I reside outside US. All the 'Prepaid Debit Card' sellers I know here in UK require you personal details, and unless there is a way faking these too.
     
  19. distantshores

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    I don't think so as I need Stealth/Fake PP account just to cash out my own money held with my official PP account anonymously. I won't be doing anyone harm :)
     
  20. distantshores

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    I don't think so as I need Stealth/Fake PP account just to cash out part of my own money held with my official PP account anonymously. I won't be doing anyone harm :)