How to correctly spoof pc parameters without VPS/Antidetect?

ReverseEngineering said:

Sorry, but totally wrong.

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When you call someone wrong, a nice style is to add why, for example give research data.

I'm talking about GPU fingerprinting techniques used by antifraud companies, e.g. webgl/canvas fingerprints. Same GPU hardware makes same fingerprints.

The process is a lot more involved than changing some parameters.
There's a reason that anti-detect has been a popular niche around these parts for more than a decade now.

I'm glad that you ask:

lucky.sparks said:

When you call someone wrong, a nice style is to add why, for example give research data.

I'm talking about GPU fingerprinting techniques used by antifraud companies, e.g. webgl/canvas fingerprints. Same GPU hardware makes same fingerprints.

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1. The OP asked about the spoofing of PCs, so computers, not phones:

Carlods99 said:

Anyone knows or has a tutorial on how to spoof parameters to make the pc completely different?

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2. So you came up with off-topic phones:

lucky.sparks said:

All phones of same manufacturer has same fingerprints.

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And this statement is wrong.

All phones (e. g. iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPhone 14 Pro Max, iPhone 13 Pro Max etc.) of the same manufacturer (Apple) do have of course totally different fingerprints.

And depending on the iOS version and the browsers you use on the phones (e. g. Safari, Firefox, Chrome etc.) they do have different fingerprints also, depending on your settings, add-on usage etc.

Valian said:

The process is a lot more involved than changing some parameters.
There's a reason that anti-detect has been a popular niche around these parts for more than a decade now.

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Do you think they are the right solution?

ReverseEngineering said:

I'm glad that you ask:



1. The OP asked about the spoofing of PCs, so computers, not phones:



2. So you came up with off-topic phones:



And this statement is wrong.

All phones (e. g. iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPhone 14 Pro Max, iPhone 13 Pro Max etc.) of the same manufacturer (Apple) do have of course totally different fingerprints.

And depending on the iOS version and the browsers you use on the phones (e. g. Safari, Firefox, Chrome etc.) they do have different fingerprints also, depending on your settings, add-on usage etc.

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I agree, even how you put in order your app makes the phone unique.

Carlods99 said:

Do you think they are the right solution?

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It is a very cost effective solution.
Alternatively you would be doing it yourself programmatically with some browser driver (selenium, etc.) combined with open source anti-detect plugins and any other configuration you might need to do. It requires knowledge about browsers, networks and fingerprinting.
Best solution, cost excluded, as has been previously mentioned is mobile devices, either emulated or even better physical devices that you would buy second hand combined with some programmatic solution to remote control them en masse.

In all cases you'd also need some residential and/or mobile proxies.

Also, how knowledgeable you need to be to diy depends primarily on the target. That can vary from some sites not blocking bots at all, to employing some countermeasures that are easily bypassed, to using undocumented elaborate javascript features that can be very difficult to bypass without using physical devices.

Valian said:

It is a very cost effective solution.
Alternatively you would be doing it yourself programmatically with some browser driver (selenium, etc.) combined with open source anti-detect plugins and any other configuration you might need to do. It requires knowledge about browsers, networks and fingerprinting.
Best solution, cost excluded, as has been previously mentioned is mobile devices, either emulated or even better physical devices that you would buy second hand combined with some programmatic solution to remote control them en masse.

In all cases you'd also need some residential and/or mobile proxies.

Also, how knowledgeable you need to be to diy depends primarily on the target. That can vary from some sites not blocking bots at all, to employing some countermeasures that are easily bypassed, to using undocumented elaborate javascript features that can be very difficult to bypass without using physical devices.

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I think I’ll give a try to antidetects and test many of them, I always made em on real pc but the solution is too expensive, also second hand phones cost 80/90€ and for just 1 account is too high.

Will use always real virgin 4g mobile proxy so from all accounts perspective I will have high quality accounts BUT the fingerprint too is really important otherwise accounts are linked.

Also I don’t have much time to do all the coding/development stuff and also don’t have enough knowledge to do that type of work.

I think to test some months the antidetect.

I already did tests on real device and accounts are really good and healthy, the point is that obviously I can’t get 100 real pcs every time lol

Carlods99 said:

I think I’ll give a try to antidetects and test many of them, I always made em on real pc but the solution is too expensive, also second hand phones cost 80/90€ and for just 1 account is too high.

Will use always real virgin 4g mobile proxy so from all accounts perspective I will have high quality accounts BUT the fingerprint too is really important otherwise accounts are linked.

Also I don’t have much time to do all the coding/development stuff and also don’t have enough knowledge to do that type of work.

I think to test some months the antidetect.

I already did tests on real device and accounts are really good and healthy, the point is that obviously I can’t get 100 real pcs every time lol

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Sounds good, you're on the right track and you have the right mentality to succeed.

Valian said:

Sounds good, you're on the right track and you have the right mentality to succeed

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Thanks but now need to do facts not words

I think only way to succeed is to do trial and error and scale what works and repeat

ReverseEngineering said:

I'm glad that you ask:



1. The OP asked about the spoofing of PCs, so computers, not phones:



2. So you came up with off-topic phones:



And this statement is wrong.

All phones (e. g. iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPhone 14 Pro Max, iPhone 13 Pro Max etc.) of the same manufacturer (Apple) do have of course totally different fingerprints.

And depending on the iOS version and the browsers you use on the phones (e. g. Safari, Firefox, Chrome etc.) they do have different fingerprints also, depending on your settings, add-on usage etc.

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You talk much, but how about sharing some proof?

1. I offered that as an alternative as sometimes it's way easier to do it using phones than to try spoof desktop.

2. The statement is correct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canvas_fingerprinting#Uniqueness
Since the fingerprint is primarily based on the browser, operating system, and installed graphics hardware it does not uniquely identify users. In a small-scale study with 294 participants from Amazon's Mechanical Turk, an experimental entropy of 5.7 bits was observed, but the authors of the study suggest more entropy could likely be observed in the wild and with more patterns used in the fingerprint. While not sufficient to uniquely identify users by itself, this fingerprint could be combined with other sources of entropy to provide a unique identifier. It is claimed that because the technique is effectively fingerprinting the GPU, the entropy is "orthogonal" to the entropy of previous browser fingerprint techniques such as screen resolution and browser JavaScript capabilities.

More research data on this subject: https://github.com/prescience-data/dark-knowledge/blob/main/pdf/2018 - Fingerprinting Mobile Browsers.pdf

So having a factory default android device, with a default browser - will be enough to not be unique and thus fingerprinting isn't possible using hardware parameters.

Yes, the same manufacturer CAN have different fingerprints if the hardware is different. Same as every samsung model will have different hardware fingerprints. Take two same manufacturer devices with same hardware and they will have same fingerprints thus making them impossible to be fingerprinted.

Yes, I did made mistake by not extending my answer, it should be "same manufacturer with same hardware" although I did fix that in my next post.

Again you are not 1) listening, 2) understanding the subject, 3) paying attention.

Because if you do, it would be quite easy to understand what I did mean with that and instead of stating "completely wrong", it would be enough with "a minor adjustment" and then EXPLAIN why.

I'm adding you to my ignore list and won't participate in any discussions as I find your highly incompetent lack of paying attention incredibly annoying.

So do you think I could use residential proxy on my phone with factory reset and setup free accounts?

If I could do that, basically it would be a matter of weeks to skyrocket earnings to 1k per day.

lucky.sparks said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canvas_fingerprinting#Uniqueness

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1. You didn't talk about "Canvas" fingerprinting:

lucky.sparks said:

All phones of same manufacturer has same fingerprints.

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2. Thank you for the confirmation that you made another mistake:

lucky.sparks said:

Yes, I did made mistake by not extending my answer, it should be "same manufacturer with same hardware"

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Conclusion: All phones (e. g. iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPhone 14 Pro Max, iPhone 13 Pro Max) of the same manufacturer (Apple) do have different fingerprints, also caused by different versions of Apple iOS and different browsers (e. g. Safari, Firefox, Chrome) with different settings/add-ons.

So before you become abusive, accuse and even insult other people, better write more accurate statements with more details.

reaaski said:

So do you think I could use residential proxy on my phone with factory reset and setup free accounts?

If I could do that, basically it would be a matter of weeks to skyrocket earnings to 1k per day.

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Technically you do not need to factory reset but you can use browsers like Brave and others, just clear the tracking data - wipe cookies, IndexedDB and other storages so the browser is clean.

Yesterday's a discussion was really heated up!

Now it's starting again. I will grab some popcorn.

ReverseEngineering said:

Conclusion: All phones (e. g. iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPhone 14 Pro Max, iPhone 13 Pro Max) of the same manufacturer (Apple) do have different fingerprints, also caused by different versions of Apple iOS and different browsers (e. g. Safari, Firefox, Chrome) with different settings/add-ons.

So before you become abusive, accuse and even insult other people, better write more accurate statements with more details.

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I can't do much with one browser on the same phone on the same network. Trying to find a workarund. Gologin mobile isn't reliable.

lucky.sparks said:

Technically you do not need to factory reset but you can use browsers like Brave and others, just clear the tracking data - wipe cookies, IndexedDB and other storages so the browser is clean.

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What I'm looking forward to is to create Google accounts without phone verification. Do you think that's possible?

I managed to make 100 per day but always stop around that number. Too much stuff is overlapping.

Test setup was 4g proxy - same country - same subnets and unique phones.

I'm thinking if residential proxy on mobile would help.

reaaski said:

What I'm looking forward to is to create Google accounts without phone verification. Do you think that's possible?

I managed to make 100 per day but always stop around that number.

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Yes, it's possible, you would need very clean IPs.

lucky.sparks said:

Yes, it's possible, you would need very clean IPs.

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Once I go through a clean subnet, it's gone. In about a month I can do that again.

Problem is sourcing 1000 clean subnets from different ASNs.

Happily it doesn't take much data.

reaaski said:

I can't do much with one browser on the same phone on the same network. Trying to find a workarund. Gologin mobile isn't reliable.

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If you talk about Android phones, have a look at TWRP to clean up things and also remove the current DeviceID:

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWRP_(software)
- https://twrp.me

So you don't have to factory reset the complete phone.

Edit: Make sure to create a backup of the current system and data first.

reaaski said:

Once I go through a clean subnet, it's gone. In about a month I can do that again.

Problem is sourcing 1000 clean subnets from different ASNs.

Happily it doesn't take much data.

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A lot of residential proxy providers, especially ones that come from China (thus their sourced IPs unethically), they have actually plenty of mobile subnets inside their pools.

So you can get access to world wide mobile proxies for a fraction of the price, you need to filter and rotate sessions till you get mobile IPs of course.

ReverseEngineering said:

Conclusion: All phones (e. g. iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPhone 14 Pro Max, iPhone 13 Pro Max) of the same manufacturer (Apple) do have different fingerprints, also caused by different versions of Apple iOS and different browsers (e. g. Safari, Firefox, Chrome) with different settings/add-ons.

So before you become abusive, accuse and even insult other people, better write more accurate statements with more details.

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The statement wasn't inaccurate, the same models from the same manufacturer share the same hardware fingerprints.

I was thinking about the same phone model, which comes from the same manufacturer. So my statement was as correct as yours about different models, misunderstanding comes from you taking that post only from your perspective and trying to be a smart ass without even trying to think.

If my statement lacked enough details, you could always help me extend it with your knowledge and explanation. I would highly appreciate that and thank you.

Or you could just simply ask, "hey why do you think like that" and I would be happy to extend my answer with research data and an explanation of what I did think there.

But instead, you try to be so itchy and whatnot. Or simply - a jerk. So who is insulting who at the end?