I'm glad to see BHW has updated to Xenforo, I have a couple of those forums myself. I'm making money with Facebook every day, with 60,000 fans it's possible to earn $xx,xxx a month. Very simple, work hard writing content your fans want to see on a simple Wordpress content site, write unique content for 10 hours a day, do your research, and put aggressive ads on your website from native ad companies. But who wants to work hard to make money? Not many, so I've come up with another solution. Get yourself a "paid to click" website script and build a PTC website from it, next pay someone to write you 100 articles on the subject of paid to click websites. Put the articles on a Wordpress site and add affiliate links, and ads from native ad networks, it's very important to add pop up ads from these native ad networks, such as Taboola or outbrain. As a PTC website owner you don't pay much for clicks, pay like $0.0001 for each 5 second click and add links from your PTC content website. Believe me, people will sit and click for hours for 0.0001 per click. So do the math, for geo traffic native ad companies will pay about $10 for every 10,000 hits to the website. (I did this test on a clicksense ad) USA and Canada hits pay more like $25 to $35 for 10,000 hits. As the PTC owner you pay $1 for 10,000 hits. $9 profit per 10,000 hits. Now imagine 1 million members and 1000 links to click on for your PTC members? You're gonna make $1000's for no work, it will take work and time to setup, but once it's setup it's good to go. Get your first 10,000 members from clicksense and neobux, then let the referrals bring you traffic, and they will, it's gonna cost around $1,500 to set everything up and get those 10,000 members. If you don't have that $1,500 budget, don't even think about it. You need $600 for the software and content website and the rest to get your first 10k members. After 10k members you will not only get referral members, but you will also rank in Google and review sites, if you payout all members correctly. Now I've never tried before I knew about native ads, so if anyone can give me feedback on it that be great, I already called my native ad company and they said I'm allowed to send traffic via PTC sites. I have tried it as I have a PTC site, but on this one I strictly use advertisers to fund clicks as I know most of the advertisers personally. I've been successful with Facebook and 60,000 fans, have earned $45,000 from a single native ad network since Jan 1 2016. My advice for this is never buy Facebook likes, and check your comments to see what your fans want, if they have a certain politician, then write flaws this politician has, the more shares your article gets the better. The headline and pic is important, if it takes you longer to think of the perfect headline than it takes to write the article, your in the right direction.